American looking to "right-size" the company and staffing levels for the Fall and 2021

[eolesen]

tif mnuchin is saying that taxpayers need to be compensated for relief THEY are giving the airlines, what does that tell you?

There's no language in the Act that says where the funds come from, so can I prove to any standard that you'd accept that's where they came from? Probably not. The Act's language *is* pretty clear that proceeds from airline repayments and profits from ownership warrants are to be deposited into the AATF.

I've spent a lot of time working with finance, and accountants tend to replenish accounts that were borrowed from before they start pumping money into a general fund. There's no good excuse why Treasury would want to pay proceeds into a trust fund other than that's where they drew from. And I'm pretty sure funds were drawn from lots of other sources that nobody wants to publicize because robbing Peter to pay Paul makes for splashy headlines.

there's more comments from politicians that taxpayers are taking the risks for the cares act and need to be compensated.

Yes, politicians certainly are known for their ability to know *all* the details before opening their mouth to make a statement, eh?....

Fact is all Congress critters cared about was huge dollar amounts to be able to report back to constituents on that made them look good. They didn't ask where the $4T was coming from, and frankly they didn't want to know. That's why you'll have to ask Treasury. Execution and funding for CARES fell on them to figure out.

It's a fact that AATF was filled with billions of unspent funds that by law could only be spent for air transportation related purposes. AATF is receiving proceeds. Connect the dots, folks. It ain't hard, but if you'd rather say that ALL taxpayers are funding "bailouts" that aren't bailouts, versus those who bought airline tickets, go for it.

It's amazing that this is suddenly what matters in a thread about staffing levels but hey, it does deflect from all the other crap being spewed around here.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

It's amazing that this is suddenly what matters in a thread about staffing levels but hey, it does deflect from all the other crap being spewed around here.

Of course it matters. The taxpayers are funding those staffing levels. So YES it is relevant.

As you like to say connect the dots.

 

[swamt]

There is no "common damage report" for the virus. My brother and his wife were infected and after 14-day quarantine, neither of them had apparent permanent damage of any kind. A friend of mine is in the hospital at the moment (non-COVID reason). I went to the hospital to take him some clean clothing items. I was talking with a registered nurse on my friend's floor. She had served 2 tours of duty on the virus ward, and she said "I am petrified at the thought of catching the virus. There is no predicting the outcome. Some patients leave the hospital without noticeable problems. Others have permanent holes in their lungs."

As far as spreading it. My sister-in-law tested positive, then negative a few weeks later, then positive again a few weeks after that! Even though she is now testing negative again, they(brother and wife) are not allowing any relatives to come to their house because they have no idea whether they can or can't infect someone. The best the doctor could say is "you are probably not infectious."

Thx for sharing.

I have been told that COVID attacks the lungs and leaves behind scar tissue. I don't know if the symptoms are permanent or not , I only know that as of a month after getting out of the hospital I am still having breathing issues and as recently as yesterday was prescribed Albuterol.

To describe what it feels like, well besides the obvious shortness of breath, you know that feeling you get right below your throat when you need to cough or are trying to suppress a cough, I feel that 24/7. I can provide you updates as time passes but as far as it being permanent, I just don't know. I am sorry I don't have more information for you.

Hope you get a full recovery.

I am not spreading fear.

I am a recovering COVID patient that was admitted to OSU COVID ward.

I am only sharing information I learned during my time as a patient and the experience of actually going through the recovery.

I might also add I was ASKED to share that information. It was not posted with any intent other to satisfy the ask.

I did ask if there was perm. damage after having C-19. I just want to know what to expect in case for some stupid reason I, or one of my family members may get it and what to do. Always prepare for the worst.

 

[1AA]

https://investorplace.com/2020/08/m...save-the-day-for-american-airlines-aal-stock/

 

[CremaDiLimone]

the guy who wrote that:

Ian Bezek ............At the time of this writing, Ian Bezek held a short position in AAL stock.

people sell and he makes money.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

I did ask if there was perm. damage after having C-19. I just want to know what to expect in case for some stupid reason I, or one of my family members may get it and what to do. Always prepare for the worst.

The truth is I just don't know.

All I can tell you is I have been out of the hospital now for about 5 weeks and I am still having breathing issues. In fact the doctor put me on an inhaler just yesterday.

The best I can do is provide updates from time to time.

I will say I felt MUCH better within 5 to 6 hours of taking Remdesivir and convalescent plasma. However the hospital had to get special permission to use the plasma from Oklahoma City (I was in a Tulsa hospital)... I guess the supply is limited so you have to meet certain criteria to get it. If you do get sick ask for that ASAP, I am telling you it made a huge difference.

Also don't be a fool like me. You see, I knew I was sick a little over a week before I went to the hospital. But I had scheduled vacation the following week and figured if I could just tough it out for the rest of the week I could just rest and recover during my vacation. Big mistake. I got so bad I could not even be driven to the hospital (could not sit up) in our SUV and had to be taken by ambulance. My advice is if you have symptoms go get tested right then so you can avoid the long term issues I am having to go through.

 

[robbedagain]

One of my coworkers that I had worked w at BWIjust passed away aug 2and n he wasn't feeling good for a week n was scheduled for a covid test Supposedly the rumor was heart attack but I've heard covid can damage organs n I wonder if it was covid

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

One of my coworkers that I had worked w at BWIjust passed away aug 2and n he wasn't feeling good for a week n was scheduled for a covid test Supposedly the rumor was heart attack but I've heard covid can damage organs n I wonder if it was covid

I am not sure about organs outside of the lungs. It absolutely can cause scarring in the lungs. I know that for a fact.

 

[robbedagain]

I am not sure about organs outside of the lungs. It absolutely can cause scarring in the lungs. I know that for a fact.

I have heard of just a few but honestly I don't know but I wouldn't be surprised either

 

[Eagle]

Let's get this topic back on track please...

 

[Rogallo]

So, what are the rumors on how many are taking the early out?

 

[dfw gen]

So, what are the rumors on how many are taking the early out?

Last week a text out of dfw said 800 system wide for tech ops. Cant imagine it changed much

 

[Rogallo]

Last week a text out of dfw said 800 system wide for tech ops. Cant imagine it changed much

And who was this text from?

 

[jimntx]

https://investorplace.com/2020/08/m...save-the-day-for-american-airlines-aal-stock/

As one of the naysayers who summarily dismissed the possibility that it would be American if one of the Big 4 went into bankruptcy, let me be the first to say "Gee, I mighta been wrong.
I'm not familiar with the quoted publication, but judging from name and content it's a stock market analysis magazine.

Here is a quote from the article which 1AA linked in. (You cant really argue with the math.)
"It’s worth noting that the U.S. airline industry didn’t return to overall profitability until 2007 after the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks. Airlines earn single-digit profit margins when things are going right. Running a negative 50% or negative 75% profit margin for a year destroys profits from many good years, and often forces an airline through Chapter 11 reorganization or a total liquidation."

 

[dfw gen]

And who was this text from?

local 591 southwest region