American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

Tim whats the time frame we arent going to go to.a PEB after just a few months negotiation

At any rate, ive been working with key twu peeps about raiding the association. Obviously now isnt the time but after a few other things fall in place, it may be necessary to raid the association in 2020 just to break the ice and schedule maybe 1 day of negotiations to clean up charlies mess and nab a leading industry contract in 1 day of negotiations. Then have a quick vote.

 

[Rogallo]

So, how's it going on the TWU side of the Association?

Oh nevermind!

 

[Kev3188]

And BTW you currently own 0% of any of the work you perform.

You have a contract.

And yet, here we are with one of your Association AGCs dismissing the value of work, another guy doing the same (“it’s only 95 fly’s./week”), and you carrying their water.

Meanwhile, I’m working ANY DL branded plane that shows up.

P.S. Doing a lot of deicing for Envoy too, so that’s nice.

 

[charlie Brown]

thats ridiculous. Well at least you tell clean lies. Other agc tell bad ones. Your lies are clean, meaning that they really are less harmless cuz they end up strawman.
One thing you did hose us on was recommending that united ta, and going for the cash instead of a jcba here.
No leverage.

That’s number 102, still not true. Since I lie so much, surely you have one example of one don’t you? Please post for all to see!!Just one please!!

 

[charlie Brown]

At any rate, ive been working with key twu peeps about raiding the association. Obviously now isnt the time but after a few other things fall in place, it may be necessary to raid the association in 2020 just to break the ice and schedule maybe 1 day of negotiations to clean up charlies mess and nab a leading industry contract in 1 day of negotiations. Then have a quick vote.

You still don’t get it do you? If you ever really cared about change, you would get out of the way. Your name attached to change, just assures that change will never happen. But your ego is too big to ever understand that. When the majority of the people hear your name associated with something, they immediately say no.

 

[charlie Brown]

You have a contract.

And yet, here we are with one of your Association AGCs dismissing the value of work, another guy doing the same (“it’s only 95 fly’s./week”), and you carrying their water.

Meanwhile, I’m working ANY DL branded plane that shows up.

P.S. Doing a lot of deicing for Envoy too, so that’s nice.

Who has dismissed the value of work?

 

[Kev3188]

Sorry, Mark. You’re right; RacerX dismissed the work. You dismissed the jobs. My bad.

 

[charlie Brown]

Sorry, Mark. You’re right; RacerX dismissed the work. You dismissed the jobs. My bad.

What Jobs did I dismiss?

 

[ALUS78]

Who has dismissed the value of work?

I got the same impression that Kev got.Like those jobs would br a sacrificial lamb in the event the company played hardball with the TWU throwing the first knock down pitch

 

[ALUS78]

Who has dismissed the value of work?

Yes CB it was RacerX..never mind

 

[ALUS78]

You still don’t get it do you? If you ever really cared about change, you would get out of the way. Your name attached to change, just assures that change will never happen. But your ego is too big to ever understand that. When the majority of the people hear your name associated with something, they immediately say no.

If you feel that strongly about Tim why would you even reply to him??

 

[Kev3188]

I got the same impression that Kev got.Like those jobs would br a sacrificial lamb in the event the company played hardball with the TWU throwing the first knock down pitch

Right? I can’t believe an AGC is writing these posts.

Sometimes truth is stranger than fiction.

 

[charlie Brown]

If you feel that strongly about Tim why would you even reply to him??

Tim and I go way back. We both know we will pretty much always respond to each other. And it’s not how strongly I feel about Tim. I love debating with anyone. It’s how strongly the large majority feels about him that keeps whatever his agenda is from ever taking place.

 

[ALUS78]

Tim and I go way back. We both know we will pretty much always respond to each other. And it’s not how strongly I feel about Tim. I love debating with anyone. It’s how strongly the large majority feels about him that keeps whatever his agenda is from ever taking place.

The union loyaltist dont like tim the rest im not to sure.You look at him as an ahole with a big ego well.i look at him.as kind of a watchdog to keep you all honest.I remember recieving a letter from the iam one of maybe 3 or 4 in all the years we've been with them, a letter while not mentioning his name was quite critical of him yet they hired him a few years later.Keep your enemy closer i guess

 

[charlie Brown]

The union loyaltist dont like tim the rest im not to sure.You look at him as an ahole with a big ego well.i look at him.as kind of a watchdog to keep you all honest.I remember recieving a letter from the iam one of maybe 3 or 4 in all the years we've been with them, a letter while not mentioning his name was quite critical of him yet they hired him a few years later.Keep your enemy closer i guess

Its pretty obvious on these pages how you feel about Tim. More power to ya. I have no doubt you will one day figure him out like everyone else does. Just takes some longer than others is all.

And please don’t put words in my post. You will never find me calling Tim a ahole on here, and ask anyone that knows me, I have no problem expressing how I feel about someone.

The only thing that has ever bothered me about Tim is his agenda to deliberately deceive the membership. He thrives on people being ignorant of the facts so he can pounce on them with misleading information. He has even admitted on here to you and everyone on here that he could care less about being credible.

And I can assure you. Tim never effects the job that I do. As I have said on here before. I would only be concerned if Tim ever approved of the job that I do.