American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

Mmmmm as it stands now Kev might be better off than us

If it’s all about only short term economics I would agree. As it stands of course.

As long as Management never decides to just arbitrarily close his city or get rid of him because he’s quite costly, he may just continue to do quite alright.

 

[charlie Brown]

If it wasnt for Tim i wouldnt have known about your raise. Hes useful no.matter how you feel.

You prove my point exactly. He thrives on people not knowing. It was easy to put forth a litttle effort about the district officer raises. It was on the internet. Can’t get much more public and easier to find than that. But thanks for proving my point.

 

[WeAAsles]

Of course you do; it’s like your security blanket.

YES, FINALLY!!!!! I thought you would never figure it out.

Security is a wonderful thing to have.

It’s very comforting.

 

[Kev3188]

I always have a contingency plan. I’ll land on my feet.

 

[Kev3188]

You prove my point exactly. He thrives on people not knowing. It was easy to put forth a litttle effort about the district officer raises. It was on the internet. Can’t get much more public and easier to find than that. But thanks for proving my point.

Translation: “It’s okay I got a massive raise without delivering a JCBA because it was announced on the Internet.”

 

[Tim Nelson]

Show me where I have ever said 100%?
You are the only one that post words like “ for sure” and “ certain “ and “ will “ ( see above )
But again, since you will just change your chameleon colors and make up another story, I’m sure you will eventually get it right so you can make your famous post.

You prove my point exactly. He thrives on people not knowing. It was easy to put forth a litttle effort about the district officer raises. It was on the internet. Can’t get much more public and easier to find than that. But thanks for proving my point.

who cares about your point. It was wrong for you and the eboard to recommend that bylaw change. And few can vote those ridiculous hours which are staged for a rigged vote. Never mind that there are no electronic or 30 day voting. It was wrong.

 

[WeAAsles]

I always have a contingency plan. I’ll land on my feet.

I never said I wanted anything bad to happen to you. I just don’t care for the instability of the life you’re forced to live and especially not in a RTW State.

I hope you’re contingency plan isn’t mowing lawns.

Can’t make a living doing that year round where you live.

 

[WeAAsles]

Translation: “It’s okay I got a massive raise without delivering a JCBA because it was announced on the Internet.”

Just curious why this concerns you if you’re not in the IAM much less even any Union at all?

Like I said, I’m just curious?

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim and I go way back. We both know we will pretty much always respond to each other. And it’s not how strongly I feel about Tim. I love debating with anyone. It’s how strongly the large majority feels about him that keeps whatever his agenda is from ever taking place.

well, thats certainly not true. The infrastructure makes sure the large majority never can be heard. That said, you guys were so scared that you changed voting hours and everything else.
With dl141 and the GL, its not about a particular candidate, but is that candidate an incumbant on an incumbant ticket. In the history of dl141, a pure opposition ticket never won.
Nothing against you, but i doubt you would get 2 Locals if you werent on the incumbant ticket. Frankie tried but got zero. Nothing against him.

 

[robbedagain]

Tim. U said u saw copy of the offer when u were in PBI(?) Can u post it here so we can see that so called offer n debate that? I cannot imagine the company offer being good. Given their greedy self centered ways yet want us to be like DL. They got long arse ways to go before we cld be like DL

 

[charlie Brown]

who cares about your point. It was wrong for you and the eboard to recommend that bylaw change. And few can vote those ridiculous hours which are staged for a rigged vote. Never mind that there are no electronic or 30 day voting. It was wrong.

Again, why don’t you try and deceive a little more. A Local has to put forth for a by law change before a convention per the by laws. Let’s look it up and see who is lying.
The district officers can’t do this. Again anybody wants to know who is lying? Look at the bylaws.
Then all the district delegates from across the country vote at the convention on those by law changes.
Then if it passes the convention floor, it goes to the members for a vote and the by laws specifically state when the vote takes place. Again look at the bylaws and see who is lying.
Now your are helping me prove my point about you. Because you know all this is true, but you refused to tell any of the members how it really happens because you know most don’t know, nor would they make the effort to educate their self and find out.
Exactly my point. You prey on that. And then you pounce. Now instead of calling me a liar on this. Prove me wrong and post the bylaws for all to see. I’ll wait and see if you do.

 

[charlie Brown]

well, thats certainly not true. The infrastructure makes sure the large majority never can be heard. That said, you guys were so scared that you changed voting hours and everything else.
With dl141 and the GL, its not about a particular candidate, but is that candidate an incumbant on an incumbant ticket. In the history of dl141, a pure opposition ticket never won.
Nothing against you, but i doubt you would get 2 Locals if you werent on the incumbant ticket. Frankie tried but got zero. Nothing against him.

I agree 100% I probably wouldn’t get 2 locals, because you would be supporting me if I wasn’t on the incumbent ticket. So it would probably be impossible with your support.

 

[Racer X]

Translation: “It’s okay I got a massive raise without delivering a JCBA because it was announced on the Internet.”

I’m sure you are aware of the fact that in Aug 2016, almost every member got a raise...the average being approx 23.5%. You also realize I’m sure that this was during these very same negotiations.

 

[WeAAsles]

Again, why don’t you try and deceive a little more. A Local has to put forth for a by law change before a convention per the by laws. Let’s look it up and see who is lying.
The district officers can’t do this. Again anybody wants to know who is lying? Look at the bylaws.
Then all the district delegates from across the country vote at the convention on those by law changes.
Then if it passes the convention floor, it goes to the members for a vote and the by laws specifically state when the vote takes place. Again look at the bylaws and see who is lying.
Now your are helping me prove my point about you. Because you know all this is true, but you refused to tell any of the members how it really happens because you know most don’t know, nor would they make the effort to educate their self and find out.
Exactly my point. You prey on that. And then you pounce. Now instead of calling me a liar on this. Prove me wrong and post the bylaws for all to see. I’ll wait and see if you do.

Excuse me for interrupting but I’m sure Tim would never post it so just so we call all be clear here.

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https://iam141.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/BYLAWS_DL-141_Effective-9-1-17.pdf

 

[charlie Brown]

Translation: “It’s okay I got a massive raise without delivering a JCBA because it was announced on the Internet.”

Again, and one more time. There are many FT district officers besides the 7AA ones. In fact we are very much the minority. The majority of district officers are not in negotiations.