American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

Interesting so well capitalized non-transportation locals who send more money to the GL get to include their staff?

Also does someone like Klemm or a GLR who was active at a carrier in the IAMNPF get IAMNPF credit while serving the GL? Traditional company pensions appointed union officials get to double dip and earn both a company (or public sector) pension plus union perks.

Josh

yes. its all double dipping by constitution.

 

[GVPSPIAM]

again, please show us the document that you, weez, and lying Mark says "When and where" directed. Members wanna know.

Sorry that information is for members only.

Show the board the offer you’ve claimed to have for months now, or do we all have to wait two weeks?

 

[WeAAsles]

It’s going to get pretty boring I know but let’s give it a try anyway.

 

[Talos]

ok, looked like the dfw president said it was back on the table.

this will come to the relief of dozens of C/Cs..and also relief for iam leads.

Considering they are being updated constantly by the EC, how can our update from the 513 local make inaccurate statements like that? Fa has painted a pretty gloomy picture the last few updates. You now have to wonder if he understands what he is being told.

 

[WeAAsles]

Considering they are being updated constantly by the EC, how can our update from the 513 local make inaccurate statements like that? Fa has painted a pretty gloomy picture the last few updates. You now have to wonder if he understands what he is being told.

This was from the Association update itself.

“We addressed the Fleet Crew Chief duties as part of our Classifications and Scope discussions. That section is settled”

 

[PIEDMONT784]

It’s going to get pretty boring I know but let’s give it a try anyway.

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Love it... I'm setting mine now...

 

[737823]

yes. its all double dipping by constitution.

Does the DL/GL send the IAMNPF the requisite contribution like the company would? Assume they get the full annual 2040 hour load?

Josh

 

[WeAAsles]

Love it... I'm setting mine now...

Enough was enough yesterday finally.

 

[WeAAsles]

Considering they are being updated constantly by the EC, how can our update from the 513 local make inaccurate statements like that? Fa has painted a pretty gloomy picture the last few updates. You now have to wonder if he understands what he is being told.

Apparently the language has been changed and it could be how he’s interpreting it that he sees it in the negative light?

And I’ve heard that it hasn’t been TA’d just yet but it is pretty much there.

IAM side though does “seem” to have a philosophy that they think their Leads should sweat just a little. But we do have it in our Contract currently that the CC is supposed to “assist” the crew. And assisting doesn’t mean sitting inside and watching a Movie on your I Phone.

Personally I don’t mind sweating a little even after I finally become a CC. But when I do become a CC my Belly (Bin) days are over I can tell you that.

BTW changes do make people very nervous.

 

[Buck]

swamt and B737 driver are closer to the work than GVPSPIAM ...

 

[ALUS78]

We are. You keep posting the negotiating update to fit your narrative but the mediators rely on industry patterns. Although you and Mr Baskett and Cltrat have consistently said that what happens at United, UPS, Southwest, etc doesn't affect us, most intelligent labor people understand that what happens at UPS affects Southwest, especially since an arbitrator ruled. And that affects the TWU MX.

I try telling you but you don't listen.

Yeah right our competition doesnt affect us, friggin brilliant.Tim where yo they het this

 

[Talos]

Apparently the language has been changed and it could be how he’s interpreting it that he sees it in the negative light?

And I’ve heard that it hasn’t been TA’d just yet but it is pretty much there.

IAM side though does “seem” to have a philosophy that they think their Leads should sweat just a little. But we do have it in our Contract currently that the CC is supposed to “assist” the crew. And assisting doesn’t mean sitting inside and watching a Movie on your I Phone.

Personally I don’t mind sweating a little even after I finally become a CC. But when I do become a CC my Belly (Bin) days are over I can tell you that.

BTW changes do make people very nervous.

I think most people like dealing with crew chiefs that are on top of things and pitching in when needed. At DFW we have a lot of crews in the morning that do not have much seniority. Used to take quite a bit of time to get mornings. Some of these crews are ok but some not so. Crew chief on one of those gates requires a lot of hands on activity. Worked with a not so ok low seniority crew couple of weeks ago. Crew chief was telling me watch out they are watching us, I thought yeah I bet they are.

 

[WeAAsles]

I think most people like dealing with crew chiefs that are on top of things and pitching in when needed. At DFW we have a lot of crews in the morning that do not have much seniority. Used to take quite a bit of time to get mornings. Some of these crews are ok but some not so. Crew chief on one of those gates requires a lot of hands on activity. Worked with a not so ok low seniority crew couple of weeks ago. Crew chief was telling me watch out they are watching us, I thought yeah I bet they are.

Funny. The only time I heard a CC tell me to be careful they’re watching us was when I did a first of the month onto their crew.

It didn’t take me long to figure out why they were being watched. The CC sucked. He had no authority and took no charge of his crew and didn’t even come out. So the crew wound us sucking because they were leaderless.

I never did a 1st of the month ever again.

 

[cltrat]

We are. You keep posting the negotiating update to fit your narrative but the mediators rely on industry patterns. Although you and Mr Baskett and Cltrat have consistently said that what happens at United, UPS, Southwest, etc doesn't affect us, most intelligent labor people understand that what happens at UPS affects Southwest, especially since an arbitrator ruled. And that affects the TWU MX.

I try telling you but you don't listen.

Really? Tell you what liar show me a post of mine where I have referenced in anyway what our contract did in regards to another airline or what their contract did to ours in any fashion. I’Il be waiting. It’s just another in an endless list of Tim Nelson lies. Pretty much anytime you post it’s at best a half truth or an outright lie and it always about the Nelson agenda and ego.
You’ve been pimping another union to any work group that will listen like a used car salesmen of unions.You sound ridiculous.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

Enough was enough yesterday finally.

OK... but how do we block his aliases?