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Glad to see Swampy you maintain your old contacts just like I do, only idiots go into a negotiations unarmed.
American Airlines and Labor Negotiations
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You piss your mediator off regardless if it is the Union's officers or the company, they will ice you.
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Good trolling by you today swamp rat. Anyway # 1 that front page was your link I went to and # 2 if you’ll excuse me I’m off to have some Blackened Chicken Alfredo from my local Duffy’s here.
So bye bye.
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This is for AANOTOK.
Trying again to talk about American Airlines.
February 9, 2019
Brothers and Sisters,
The Association Executive Committee met with the assigned mediators and a member of the National Mediation Board to gain a better understanding of the remaining open items. The robust dialogue was productive and ensured the meetings would continue throughout the week.
We were able to resolve and TA the M&R/MLS Field Trip guidelines. We addressed the Fleet Crew Chief duties as part of our Classifications and Scope discussions. That section is settled, leaving the remainder of these Articles to be resolved.
In Atlanta next week, we will continue to seek a resolution to the Fleet Service Classifications and Qualifications Articles. We will also refocus next week’s discussions in Atlanta on the open Scope items for all groups.
The Executive Negotiating Committee continues to update the full negotiating committee each step of the way and, foolishly, the Company believes that our members are willing to make Scope concessions that will pay for the pay raises and other gains in this contract. American Airlines must recognize that this membership will not fall for fool’s gold just to reach an agreement and that we have every intention of achieving the best contract in the industry.
Our membership sacrificed through bankruptcies and concessions in order for American to become the world’s largest and most successful airline. The time is now for this membership to be recognized and rewarded for those sacrifices. American Airlines must understand: if it takes a fight to get there, it is a fight they shall have.
Company Executives have spent billions on stock buybacks that enrich themselves and Wall Street. It is an insult they are not willing to spend what it takes to protect our work, health care, retirement benefits and increase our pay.
Company negotiators made it as clear as they could – they want us to concede the work we do. Their proposals and positions at the bargaining table attack every Association classification. They want to eliminate massive numbers of jobs in overhaul maintenance, increase the amount of line maintenance that can be performed by others internationally, decimate the skill and amount of facilities maintenance performed in-house, and vendor out any Fleet work they see fit. Every classification is affected by these draconian Company proposals.
While all the other benefits of our contracts are important, none is more important than the guarantee that our work will be here for us. If you are an Association member reading this message, you are part of this fight. Standing together, we shall prevail!
Future mediation dates scheduled:
The week of February 11- ATL
The week of March 18- DFW
The week of April 22- FLL
Fraternally,
Your Association Executive Negotiating Committee
Trying again to talk about American Airlines.
February 9, 2019
Brothers and Sisters,
The Association Executive Committee met with the assigned mediators and a member of the National Mediation Board to gain a better understanding of the remaining open items. The robust dialogue was productive and ensured the meetings would continue throughout the week.
We were able to resolve and TA the M&R/MLS Field Trip guidelines. We addressed the Fleet Crew Chief duties as part of our Classifications and Scope discussions. That section is settled, leaving the remainder of these Articles to be resolved.
In Atlanta next week, we will continue to seek a resolution to the Fleet Service Classifications and Qualifications Articles. We will also refocus next week’s discussions in Atlanta on the open Scope items for all groups.
The Executive Negotiating Committee continues to update the full negotiating committee each step of the way and, foolishly, the Company believes that our members are willing to make Scope concessions that will pay for the pay raises and other gains in this contract. American Airlines must recognize that this membership will not fall for fool’s gold just to reach an agreement and that we have every intention of achieving the best contract in the industry.
Our membership sacrificed through bankruptcies and concessions in order for American to become the world’s largest and most successful airline. The time is now for this membership to be recognized and rewarded for those sacrifices. American Airlines must understand: if it takes a fight to get there, it is a fight they shall have.
Company Executives have spent billions on stock buybacks that enrich themselves and Wall Street. It is an insult they are not willing to spend what it takes to protect our work, health care, retirement benefits and increase our pay.
Company negotiators made it as clear as they could – they want us to concede the work we do. Their proposals and positions at the bargaining table attack every Association classification. They want to eliminate massive numbers of jobs in overhaul maintenance, increase the amount of line maintenance that can be performed by others internationally, decimate the skill and amount of facilities maintenance performed in-house, and vendor out any Fleet work they see fit. Every classification is affected by these draconian Company proposals.
While all the other benefits of our contracts are important, none is more important than the guarantee that our work will be here for us. If you are an Association member reading this message, you are part of this fight. Standing together, we shall prevail!
Future mediation dates scheduled:
The week of February 11- ATL
The week of March 18- DFW
The week of April 22- FLL
Fraternally,
Your Association Executive Negotiating Committee
WeAAsles
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This is for AANOTOK.
Trying again to talk about American Airlines.
February 9, 2019
Brothers and Sisters,
The Association Executive Committee met with the assigned mediators and a member of the National Mediation Board to gain a better understanding of the remaining open items. The robust dialogue was productive and ensured the meetings would continue throughout the week.
We were able to resolve and TA the M&R/MLS Field Trip guidelines. We addressed the Fleet Crew Chief duties as part of our Classifications and Scope discussions. That section is settled, leaving the remainder of these Articles to be resolved.
In Atlanta next week, we will continue to seek a resolution to the Fleet Service Classifications and Qualifications Articles. We will also refocus next week’s discussions in Atlanta on the open Scope items for all groups.
The Executive Negotiating Committee continues to update the full negotiating committee each step of the way and, foolishly, the Company believes that our members are willing to make Scope concessions that will pay for the pay raises and other gains in this contract. American Airlines must recognize that this membership will not fall for fool’s gold just to reach an agreement and that we have every intention of achieving the best contract in the industry.
Our membership sacrificed through bankruptcies and concessions in order for American to become the world’s largest and most successful airline. The time is now for this membership to be recognized and rewarded for those sacrifices. American Airlines must understand: if it takes a fight to get there, it is a fight they shall have.
Company Executives have spent billions on stock buybacks that enrich themselves and Wall Street. It is an insult they are not willing to spend what it takes to protect our work, health care, retirement benefits and increase our pay.
Company negotiators made it as clear as they could – they want us to concede the work we do. Their proposals and positions at the bargaining table attack every Association classification. They want to eliminate massive numbers of jobs in overhaul maintenance, increase the amount of line maintenance that can be performed by others internationally, decimate the skill and amount of facilities maintenance performed in-house, and vendor out any Fleet work they see fit. Every classification is affected by these draconian Company proposals.
While all the other benefits of our contracts are important, none is more important than the guarantee that our work will be here for us. If you are an Association member reading this message, you are part of this fight. Standing together, we shall prevail!
Future mediation dates scheduled:
The week of February 11- ATL
The week of March 18- DFW
The week of April 22- FLL
Fraternally,
Your Association Executive Negotiating Committee
Tim Nelson
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Interesting.
Unfortunately, we will be put on ice late spring if the Ass doesn't allow us to vote. No way out.
The Ice Man cometh
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Tim Nelson
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I think the Association does as well
Only the best Whiskey and Cigars for the boys!
Tim per the 5500 filed with the DOL in 2017 the IAM contributed $10.8 million to the Grand Lodge pension, and it appears the average annual benefit is approximately $33k. For every year of eligible service a participant gets 2% of their ending annual salary for life (or beyond for a surviving spouse).
Do you know what counts as eligible service time? Does local Lodge time count if one later gets appointed to a cushy GL or AGC gig at the district level? Seems like a pretty cushy gig. Meanwhile the members are left with the pathetic IAMNPF managed by some of the same people who enjoy this far superior, better funded and better managed plan.
Do IAM officials engage in pension spiking (working a sprint of excessive overtime in their final years to juice their future benefits) like most public sector workers do?
Josh
Do you know what counts as eligible service time? Does local Lodge time count if one later gets appointed to a cushy GL or AGC gig at the district level? Seems like a pretty cushy gig. Meanwhile the members are left with the pathetic IAMNPF managed by some of the same people who enjoy this far superior, better funded and better managed plan.
Do IAM officials engage in pension spiking (working a sprint of excessive overtime in their final years to juice their future benefits) like most public sector workers do?
Josh
Proof?
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