American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Kev3188]

So says you. You are wrong though.

Am I? I’m just asking. But if you can tie RDM, ART, and MSN all together, please show me.

 

[WeAAsles]

Am I? I’m just asking. But if you can tie RDM, ART, and MSN all together, please show me.

You and I don’t agree with Regional, Geographical, or City pay. We have covered this on these boards too many times to mention now.

I’m not interested in trying to figure out how the pieces of the puzzle fit but I am glad to see that NYC and LAX are the highest paid on the scales as they should be.

https://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/index.html

And if that’s what it took for us to gain an “additional” 30 or 40 cities, please tell me where to sign.

 

[PIEDMONT784]

ask CLTRAT or Piedmont about his lack of credibility and truthfulness.

The truth is... he distorts, spins, filters, and ignores the truth... and when he isn't doing that... he LIES!

 

[Kev3188]

Okay, so Dave has no idea.

Can anyone else here she’d some light on how/why Envoy stations are batched together the way they are. COLA? Cross-utilization?

 

[WeAAsles]

Okay, so Dave has no idea.

Can anyone else here she’d some light on how/why Envoy stations are hatched together the way they are. COLA? Cross-utilization?

Kevin I provided you the tool to be able to stitch together your own answer. Maybe you should do your own work instead of asking others for everything.

https://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/index.html

 

[WeAAsles]

So they can competitively bid on work

So in this summary at least I don’t see the most important piece that every contract should have and that’s Scope to protect your work?

If they have to competitively bid then they’ll be stuck with low wages forever.

https://envoyagents.org/bargaining-updates/summary-cwa-envoy-tentative-agreement/

 

[Kev3188]

So they can competitively bid on work

Copy. Thank you.

Kevin I provided you the tool to be able to stitch together your own answer. Maybe you should do your own work instead of asking others for everything.

https://money.cnn.com/calculator/pf/cost-of-living/index.html

No, you didn’t. You provided the payscales from the T/A, the stomped your feet when I pointed out that not all of them looking to be strictly Cola-based. And that was after the part where I noted that I would’ve agreed with you.

It’s okay to say “I don’t know” once in awhile.

 

[ALUS78]

I hear a TA is coming out fairly soon...told sooner rather than later. Pack those bags, Tim.

They got flys in Texas i take it

 

[PIEDMONT784]

she’d some light on how/why Envoy stations are batched together the way they are. COLA?

It's a campaign designed to fully engross Delta ramp employees into committing all of their energy and time into living, and breathing all things AA...
Do you guys wear AA uniforms under your Delta garb, or is it just peel-off Delta Velcro patches?

 

[ALUS78]

You do realize Piedmont and US merged 8/5/89.

Why wouldn’t they keep their time?

Fuelers are not part of Fleet Service Class and Craft. Therefore any fueler who went to the ramp couldn’t use their fueling classification date for ramp. Those Piedmont fuelers had to go into the mechanic class and craft to keep their seniority.

No fueler at Piedmont got ramp time.

Ramp at Piedmont kept their seniority and were dovetailed.

It seems you don’t get the NMB’s rules for class and craft.

And any part timer at PI got their part time seniority cut in half when they went full time for their classification date.

I know people with Empire time that have Creme beat.Dont understand he seems somewhat intelligent he just refuses to get this one .Both groups benefited from.the merger yes LUS somewhat more than AA but seniority has nothing to do with it.Again who knows the future if both carriers remained independent but now hes beating a dead horse

 

[ALUS78]

Wrong again. US Air were represented by the IBT everywhere. The PSA merger had the former PSA rampers as Teamsters. That merger was prior to the Piedmont merger.
There was an election, prior to the Piedmont/USAir seniority integration. The Teamsters were then certified to represent all USAir rampers after the election. But as I was leading the organizing in CLT, 700 was dumping lavs and telling everyone to vote no and then try for the IAM in a couple years. His devious plan worked and he caused us to lose the Teamsters.

I never paid a dime of dues to the teamsters i think that election was being contested i think the ibt won by 4 votes

 

[AANOTOK]

They got flys in Texas i take it

Big ones!

 

[WeAAsles]

Copy. Thank you.



No, you didn’t. You provided the payscales from the T/A, the stomped your feet when I pointed out that not all of them looking to be strictly Cola-based. And that was after the part where I noted that I would’ve agreed with you.

It’s okay to say “I don’t know” once in awhile.

Oy vey Herrman. First 11 words I wrote.

Don’t know the answer for sure but I’m going to assume that those locations all have similar costs of living?

In NYC and LAX I know that they have to be in compliance with the Airport Minimums. $15.00 per hour just went into effect on Jan 1 in LGA and JFK.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/metroa...inimum-wage-increase-for-airport-workers/amp/

 

[Kev3188]

It's a campaign to designed to fully engross Delta ramp employees into committing all of their energy and time into living, and breathing all things AA...
Do you guys wear AA uniforms under your Delta garb, or is it just peel-off Delta Velcro patches?

Layers in the winter, velcro in the summer.

 

[Kev3188]

Oy vey Herrman. First 11 words I wrote.

I know. And the first 3 I responded with were "That makes sense..."