American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[dfw gen]

The givebacks in bankruptcy were up to the groups. We needed to give back 17%, the math to get there was made by the individual groups.

Fleet decided, for example, to keep 100% SK pay on first day. AMT's decided on 50%.

I dont recall having a say in anything.
Kind of like current negotiations. No input, no information. No idea whats going on. Just rumors. And more rumors. I was.hoping the company would come out with some information.

 

[1AA]

The givebacks in bankruptcy were up to the groups. We needed to give back 17%, the math to get there was made by the individual groups.

Fleet decided, for example, to keep 100% SK pay on first day. AMT's decided on 50%.

Who decided? Wasn't the membership. It was all Jim Little back in 2003. Get your real facts straight and stop thinking the TWU is a real Democratic union that puts the membership first and its financial survival second.

 

[Kev3188]

The givebacks in bankruptcy were up to the groups. We needed to give back 17%, the math to get there was made by the individual groups.

Fleet decided, for example, to keep 100% SK pay on first day. AMT's decided on 50%.

I can remember AMTs on here talking about half pay for sick days long before AA was in BK?

Edit: I didn’t see 1AA’s above post on my first pass through...

 

[Rogallo]

https://www.abc12.com/content/news/...nuses-to-UAW-members-next-week-564055891.html

What will our signing bonus be.....
0.0

Shoulda went to work building cars, huh?

 

[Rogallo]

Who decided? Wasn't the membership. It was all Jim Little back in 2003. Get your real facts straight and stop thinking the TWU is a real Democratic union that puts the membership first and its financial survival second.

He's quite delusional ain't he?

 

[Rogallo]

I for one would have to say it is a win, win for TWU.

After 16 years of concessions you call that a win?

 

[Vortilon]

The givebacks in bankruptcy were up to the groups. We needed to give back 17%, the math to get there was made by the individual groups.

Fleet decided, for example, to keep 100% SK pay on first day. AMT's decided on 50%.

That is complete BS, if there was any math, it was done for the benefit of the International to maintain headcount. Benefits do not mean a thing to the international because the international gets nothing out of them. So they chose to maintain headcount, and a year later those heads were chopped anyway. We were duped by that sawed off, POS with the mail order college degree: Jim Little. Fact is, we would have done much better, had we let a judge decide how much, and how long our concessions were to be. The creativity the TWU showed in finding ways to screw us knew no bounds. That is unforgivable, and will never be forgotten.

Now we are witnessing another scam being perpetrated on both memberships by allowing the Association to bake the fine into our contract without a fight. Why belong to such a weak organization? It really is pathetic: if not, embarrassing.

 

[NYer]

That is complete BS, if there was any math, it was done for the benefit of the International to maintain headcount. Benefits do not mean a thing to the international because the international gets nothing out of them. So they chose to maintain headcount, and a year later those heads were chopped anyway. We were duped by that sawed off, POS with the mail order college degree: Jim Little. Fact is, we would have done much better, had we let a judge decide how much, and how long our concessions were to be. The creativity the TWU showed in finding ways to screw us knew no bounds. That is unforgivable, and will never be forgotten.

Now we are witnessing another scam being perpetrated on both memberships by allowing the Association to bake the fine into our contract without a fight. Why belong to such a weak organization? It really is pathetic: if not, embarrassing.

The Judge did decide. 17%.

 

[Phoenix757767]

The rest of the committees flew to DCA yesterday and today.

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

The Judge did decide. 17%.

We shoulda kept what we had and got the 17 percent through LAYOFFS
But that would of hurt the ATD ATM machine
Pay and benefit concessions so the ATD can keep the union paid cars and expense accounts

 

[AA-MRO.COM]

Shoulda went to work building cars, huh?

Cars have nothing to do with a signing bonus
It's the contract and the signing bonus we wont get thanks to out union and how to rearrange the furniture to save jobs.
The twu will forego a signing bonus to save jobs

 

[NYer]

We shoulda kept what we had and got the 17 percent through LAYOFFS
But that would of hurt the ATD ATM machine
Pay and benefit concessions so the ATD can keep the union paid cars and expense accounts

That wasn't even an option. Certain things there was no control over, like the Pension and Medical. To make up the 17% the groups were able to decide what guess they'd suggest to reach the goal.

 

[V.O. Reason]

The rest of the committees flew to DCA yesterday and today.

That’s nice, more drinks and a nice hotel stay.
But it means nothing as far as an agreement

 

[Phoenix757767]

That’s nice, more drinks and a nice hotel stay.
But it means nothing as far as an agreement

If you say so.

 

[1AA]

The Judge did decide. 17%.

Jim Little pretty much did. Again we had no say with the threats of BK.