American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[swamt]

That's not accurate. They have given detailed information, it may have been inaccurate and usually late, but it's there.

There are videos and even released proposals from their side, as examples.

We may not like the information and it may have been wrong and misleading, but there has been some shared.

Let get this straight, information is information doesn't matter if its true or not? Hmmm im thinking thats false news, tell the masses what they want to hear to make them go away?
You dont hold office do you?

I want to think this is a sarcasm remark and a jab at the Association, but if it's not, it is mind blowing that you would actually say that.

I REST my case NYer.
Cmon Man! Delivering misinformation, lies, confusion and I think you even used the words "regurgitation updates" are ok with you? That is worse than giving no updates what so ever. By delivering false, misleading and lies is a direct connection that this abortion of an asso union is dividing the membership on purpose, confusing on purpose, and keeping them in the dark on purpose. That tells me the asso NC and or Exect NC has an agenda, and the members will see what that agenda is until T/A day like I have I said from the get go and been right as of so far, except for when the "company" released their first written offer, NOT the asso or the NC. Pathetic dude.

Can u show the details...such as say...scope. Wages....benesfits....etc..etc...

Deceitful and untrustworthy.

You just gotta love "The Association".

WTF is next?

They're on the Association website and a couple of videos were linked in a prior post.

Now that they're really talking, we'll probably not get anything from the recent sessions until there is an agreement.

Just as I have been saying. And as you see, all the other members agree.

 

[swamt]

The info we don’t like? Do you mean when we get rhetoric like AA wants to replace all mechanics. While at the same time there are a lot of new hires and an announcement for 400 mechs for TULE.

I wouldn’t doubt we get a contract soon, then Recession hits and AA goes bankrupt, the new ceo doesn’t even bother with asking for cuts, she takes cuts and then the employees that are left will be treated well.

She? Interesting. Do you have an idea who might be his replacement? Not saying it won't be a she, but, usually when someone makes it a point at a certain gender then they have some sort of idea of who "they" would like to see take the place. So, who do you see taking the reins at AA???

 

[robbedagain]

She? Interesting. Do you have an idea who might be his replacement? Not saying it won't be a she, but, usually when someone makes it a point at a certain gender then they have some sort of idea of who "they" would like to see take the place. So, who do you see taking the reins at AA???

If i had to guess. Id say Scott Kirby wld. Given he wanted that position then good ole cuz dp handed him his walking papers only turn around n see him join our rival at UA.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

She? Interesting. Do you have an idea who might be his replacement? Not saying it won't be a she, but, usually when someone makes it a point at a certain gender then they have some sort of idea of who "they" would like to see take the place. So, who do you see taking the reins at AA???

https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-leadership-change/

 

[dfw gen]

https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-leadership-change/

One can only hope.

 

[1AA]

Next question is will there be a JCBA before Parker gets the boot?

 

[cltrat]

It won’t be Kirby , as pointed out in another thread UA won’t be stupid as AA and not have a non compete clause in there.
Worse case scenario would be Isom though I think of Parker was booted he would be as well

 

[Rogallo]

I have a GED, I can do the job!

 

[V.O. Reason]

I have a GED, I can do the job!

Come on now don’t you mean Tim could do it

 

[V.O. Reason]

It won’t be Kirby , as pointed out in another thread UA won’t be stupid as AA and not have a non compete clause in there.
Worse case scenario would be Isom though I think of Parker was booted he would be as well

I’m not sure Isom would be that bad, I have met him once and he seemed pretty straight forward.
However I’m not sure any changes are coming especially if this JCBA gets done.
If it lingers on then we’ll yeah maybe

 

[dfw gen]

Come on now don’t you mean Tim could do it

In ten minutes he would have it straightened out.....

 

[dfw gen]

When the fly is not in negotiations he keeps busy!

 

[CremaDiLimone]

I’m not sure Isom would be that bad, I have met him once and he seemed pretty straight forward.
However I’m not sure any changes are coming especially if this JCBA gets done.
If it lingers on then we’ll yeah maybe

i agree. it probably goes against every fiber of his america west being; paying bag guys $33/hr and AMTs $51/hr along with 6 weeks vc along with twu language and the least amount of maintenance outsourcing of the legacy 3.

doing all that, just may save his job...along with keeping his $10+ million in stock every year train going.

 

[CremaDiLimone]

https://onemileatatime.com/american-airlines-leadership-change/

good stuff. same questions/issues we have.

i see united has refurbished 767s, adding more PREMIUM seats between ord-lhr. similar strategy to delta..premium seats new york-trans con along with jfk-lhr.

aa has 767s in desert that are younger/less cycles than deltas refurbished 767s making money flying across the country.

looks like the phoenix - denver dynamic on small airbuses was their ceiling.

 

[V.O. Reason]

good stuff. same questions/issues we have.

i see united has refurbished 767s, adding more PREMIUM seats between ord-lhr. similar strategy to delta..premium seats new york-trans con along with jfk-lhr.

aa has 767s in desert that are younger/less cycles than deltas refurbished 767s making money flying across the country.

looks like the phoenix - denver dynamic on small airbuses was their ceiling.

Agreed don’t understand not upgrading the 767 for some of our smaller market Europe flights and also to run then to Hawaii from LAX. and PHX. Makes no sense
Those planes could fly another 5 or so years