American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

Da Man gonna speak today at 1240 est.



Today, the TWU will participate in an Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit in Washington, D.C. A livestream will be posted at http://www.twu.org/livestream/ from 9am-1pm eastern time.

Speakers include: Ralph Nader, Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA), former US DOT Inspector General Mary Schiavo and Kevin Mitchell from the Business Travel Coalition. TWU President John Samuelsen will make closing remarks at 12:40.

Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit
Presented by the Transport Workers Union
Organized by Business Travel Coalition

AGENDA

WELCOME
9:00 am - Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition Chairman

COMMENTARY
9:15 am - Representative John Garamendi (D-CA)

WHITE PAPER & PASSENGER SAFETY BILL OF RIGHTS
9:30 am - William J. McGee, Consumer Advocate, Journalist

KEYNOTE ADDRESS & INTERVIEW
9:45 am

• Ralph Nader
• William J. McGee Interview with Ralph Nader

PANEL DISCUSSION
10:30 am - Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing

• Moderators, William J. McGee & Justin Madden
• Sarah MacLeod, Aeronautical Repair Station Association Executive Director
• Gary Peterson, Transport Workers Union International Vice President
• Bret Oestreich, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association National Director
• Loretta Alkalay, Vaughn College of Aeronautics Professor
• John Goglia, National Transportation Safety Board Former Board Member
• Michael Gonzales, Professional Aviation Safety Specialists Vice President

ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
11:45 am - Where Do We Go from Here?

• Moderator, Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition
• John Breyault, National Consumers League Vice President
• Chris Moore, International Brotherhood of Teamsters Chairman of the Aviation Mechanics Coalition
• Gary Schaible, Transport Workers Union Local 591 President
• Justin Madden, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Legislative Affairs Director

SUMMIT OBSERVATIONS
12:30 pm - Mary Schiavo, former US DOT Inspector General

CLOSING REMARKS
12:40 pm - John Samuelsen, Transport Workers Union International President

ADJOURN
12:50 pm - Kevin Mitchell

I have to say this. It’s nice to see AMFA, IBT and the TWU working together on this but again where is the IAM?

Does their representation of Boeing workers create a conflict of interest in their minds for them to be involved in this?

 

[Kev3188]

Some people seem to have forgotten why we signed that agreement and were in denial that we were going to keep them.

Terrorist attack brings down the World Trade Center and damages the Pentagon leading to a Global Economic collapse not to mention people didn’t fly again for years...

...September 11, 2001...

...Of course you shouldn’t forget. 9/11/01 also eventually led to that Union there being totally and completely slaughtered.

Anyone else remember when this frittata used to constantly tell everyone to stop looking in the rearview mirror?

It’s 2019, and our industry is in an era of unprecedented prosperity.

 

[WeAAsles]

I have to say this. It’s nice to see AMFA, IBT and the TWU working together on this but again where is the IAM?

Does their representation of Boeing workers create a conflict of interest in their minds for them to be involved in this?

My apologies as I’ve just been made aware that John Goglia is an IAM, former lead in BOS and the first union mechanic ever to be on the NTSB.

 

[Rogallo]

Losing your entire Membership and eventually extinguishing your certification at NWA/DAL is being slaughtered. Watching UAL vote you out for the IBT is a slaughter.

BUT they seem to have finally found their footing over at SWA and for the people who work there I’m really glad to see that.

Maybe the TWU will also learn from their past mistakes.

Learn From Yesterday
Live For Today
Hope For Tomorrow
-Albert Einstein

 

[WeAAsles]

Maybe the TWU will also learn from their past mistakes.

Learn From Yesterday
Live For Today
Hope For Tomorrow
-Albert Einstein

Well they’re obviously at least publicly taking a hard line approach towards the Company. But then there are people on here who have wanted them to take that hard line their entire career but now that they are they don’t like it and want them to capitulate? Huh?

Question?

If the TWU could get the AMT’s more money by giving up Facilities and Automotive should they do it in your opinion?

 

[WeAAsles]

 

[Rogallo]

Well they’re obviously at least publicly taking a hard line approach towards the Company. But then there are people on here who have wanted them to take that hard line their entire career but now that they are they don’t like it and want them to capitulate? Huh?

Question?

If the TWU could get the AMT’s more money by giving up Facilities and Automotive should they do it in your opinion?

NOT NO, BUT HELL NO!

 

[Kev3188]

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He looks like someone just explained to him how the Association is set up.

 

[V.O. Reason]

It’s going to be fun watching this group in two years when we are still without a deal, way behind our peers and then the economy has had a downturn and see how ra ra you all are at how we stood against the company but then realize we will have to take a smaller contract package
Yes it should be fun

 

[swamt]

2001. Retro pay back to March. $7.40/hr raise. 7 weeks vacation max. Had that until the 2003 "emergency" concessionary debacle.

Directly off the back of AMFA/NWA record new deal that snowballed the entire airline mechanics industry. How much he would love to deny, he knows AMFA boosted it at NWA. This time around it was Delta that triggered all the other airline increases, and hopefully AMFA again will help out AA as well as UA soon to reopen their contracts. Let's not forget the teamsters contract over at UPS helped us as well, even though they are a package hauler, it's all the same work only with us "passenger" mechanics with way, way more responsibility with all the passengers instead of packages.

Wasn't that the old AMFA at NWA inspired contract?

Some say we're supposed to forget the past and live for today, but I just can't seem to forget some things!

Exactly. Yes it was. We will never forget who started it all and took one for the industry as a whole back then and that is fact...

 

[swamt]

Da Man gonna speak today at 1240 est.



Today, the TWU will participate in an Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit in Washington, D.C. A livestream will be posted at http://www.twu.org/livestream/ from 9am-1pm eastern time.

Speakers include: Ralph Nader, Rep. John Garamendi (D-CA), former US DOT Inspector General Mary Schiavo and Kevin Mitchell from the Business Travel Coalition. TWU President John Samuelsen will make closing remarks at 12:40.

Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing Summit
Presented by the Transport Workers Union
Organized by Business Travel Coalition

AGENDA

WELCOME
9:00 am - Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition Chairman

COMMENTARY
9:15 am - Representative John Garamendi (D-CA)

WHITE PAPER & PASSENGER SAFETY BILL OF RIGHTS
9:30 am - William J. McGee, Consumer Advocate, Journalist

KEYNOTE ADDRESS & INTERVIEW
9:45 am

• Ralph Nader
• William J. McGee Interview with Ralph Nader

PANEL DISCUSSION
10:30 am - Aircraft Maintenance Outsourcing

• Moderators, William J. McGee & Justin Madden
• Sarah MacLeod, Aeronautical Repair Station Association Executive Director
• Gary Peterson, Transport Workers Union International Vice President
• Bret Oestreich, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association National Director
• Loretta Alkalay, Vaughn College of Aeronautics Professor
• John Goglia, National Transportation Safety Board Former Board Member
• Michael Gonzales, Professional Aviation Safety Specialists Vice President

ROUNDTABLE DISCUSSION
11:45 am - Where Do We Go from Here?

• Moderator, Kevin Mitchell, Business Travel Coalition
• John Breyault, National Consumers League Vice President
• Chris Moore, International Brotherhood of Teamsters Chairman of the Aviation Mechanics Coalition
• Gary Schaible, Transport Workers Union Local 591 President
• Justin Madden, Aircraft Mechanics Fraternal Association Legislative Affairs Director

SUMMIT OBSERVATIONS
12:30 pm - Mary Schiavo, former US DOT Inspector General

CLOSING REMARKS
12:40 pm - John Samuelsen, Transport Workers Union International President

ADJOURN
12:50 pm - Kevin Mitchell

We all knew Brett was going to this as he told us. Glad to see him working with the TWU at AA on these very important subjects that affects the entire industry. AMFA has been a leader in getting legislations and laws changed for A/C maint overseas.
Other than him and GP from the AA mechanics I see no other "mechanic" union leaders to represent, so why is that?
You guys, Brett has done a fantastic job as our ND here. He is also one of the many who we all thank for current new contract we just got thru. And he is well adversed about all this outsourcing outside the United States. Please guys, give him a warm welcome and a good pat on the ole back for a job well done. And I still hope he will get involved if you guys run another drive for AMFA, and get AMFA National involved. If you guys remember, the last time AMFA National was involved it dam near went through.
Nice to see all the different unions coming together for one mission. It will be so much better if all of them could continue to working for the industry as a whole rather than trying to make themselves look so good and AMFA look so bad. Use this power to grow the industry, helloooo...

 

[conehead777]

Wasn't that the old AMFA at NWA inspired contract?

Some say we're supposed to forget the past and live for today, but I just can't seem to forget some things!

That’s those people that are diehard twu Supporters and hate everything AMFA stands for. I guess a union like AMFA who keeps it’s members informed signs there updates. If not in arbitration. AMFA allows members to watch negotiations. I can understand diehard twu fans being scared of AMFA. . And AMFA listens to its members. Twu will only do its best interest for new dues paying members current member be dam. And twu will never allow members to sit in they want be able to cut there back room deals . But diehard twu fans try to spin that.

 

[WeAAsles]

NOT NO, BUT HELL NO!

Well we’re all in this together then because all the Fleet Presidents are on the same page that none of us are going to leave any other behind.

Despite those out there who are attempting every single day non stop to divide us.

 

[WeAAsles]

That’s those people that are diehard twu Supporters and hate everything AMFA stands for. I guess a union like AMFA who keeps it’s members informed signs there updates. If not in arbitration. AMFA allows members to watch negotiations. I can understand diehard twu fans being scared of AMFA. . And AMFA listens to its members. Twu will only do its best interest for new dues paying members current member be dam. And twu will never allow members to sit in they want be able to cut there back room deals . But diehard twu fans try to spin that.

This poster is one of those who continues to try as hard as he can to divide us. Over and over and over and over it’s all he knows how to do.

Conehead777 the Unions are ALL on board with each other now. You’re a Dinosaur stuck in the Tar.

 

[V.O. Reason]

Well we’re all in this together then because all the Fleet Presidents are on the same page that none of us are going to leave any other behind.

Despite those out there who are attempting every single day non stop to divide us.

Fleet should not have to wait on the maint contract.
We have totally different issues.
Should have never been part of the same union we should deal with us and let the mechs fight their own fight.
Fleet has been being screwed by this me to crap for years