American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[WeAAsles]

That raise in 16 just brought us up to the rest of the industry at the time plus 3. If the twu had got snap back in 03 and 12 we could move forward instead of fighting for what we had that the twu negotiated away. Like sick time holidays holiday pay. Double time etc. but the twu/iam are worried about grandkids being hired. Instead of fighting to get our 7th week of vacation back.

Damn right they’re fighting for the future over your greedy ass.

 

[WeAAsles]

Those back room deals the twu is good at.

Company plant.

 

[WeAAsles]

The AMTs are going to get more money regardless of title 2. Everybody in title 2 has a job guarantee for as long as they remain with AA. Now going back over the years, how much success has the TWU really had in saving jobs (long term)? Pretty much zero. They will attempt to go to the trough, and suggest the AMTs accept less pay and benefits for future dues payers in these targeted areas - well the trough is dry. The guilt meter is on zero. Title one has lost it's share of jobs already, and will most likely lose some more. It's the nature of the industry. In the mean time, our current dues payers remain under the terms of a BK like contract - dating back over 15 years - TWU = zero fox given.

Blah Blah Blah you’re so full of chit you can’t even get in your house any more.

I bet you would sell your own Mother for an extra buck.

Again I can’t wait till people like you are long gone. The sad part is your stench will probably linger on long after you leave. What you tell the next generation will be an infection.

 

[Kev3188]

Raises? Oh boy, we got one! Yay! What a huge win! I want guys who think like you, negotiating for me...said nobody...ever.

I certainly wouldn't.

Yet here you are everyday on this BB serving as the resident TWU apologist.

It's what he does now.

As a mechanic I second that motion we need our own union and y’all need yours.

Nothing wrong with that, as long as everyone remembers you're all in it together.

 

[Kev3188]

I ain’t apologizing for chit jackass. You know the real story since deregulation and the destruction that brought and then those terrorist attacks on America and you have a lot of gall to ignore it all.

F you I ain’t apologizing for anyone cause you aren’t owed any apology you ungrateful prick.

I can’t wait till dead wood like you is gone.

Haha. Such performative outrage. Bravo!

For a guy from Queens, you sure get phased easily.

 

[WeAAsles]

NOT ONE Union outside of the ones representing Southwest Airlines which grew because of it, didn’t suffer from Deregulation. NOT ONE damn single one. AMFA, APA, APFA, AFA, ALPA, CWA, IAM, IBT, TWU and whoever the hell else I might have missed. Oh not to mention tons and tons of non Represented people all over the Airline Industry too.

Too many years and too many walking jackasses out there pointing fingers.

 

[Kev3188]

NOT ONE Union outside of the ones representing Southwest Airlines which grew because of it, didn’t suffer from Deregulation. NOT ONE damn single one. AMFA, APA, APFA, AFA, ALPA, CWA, IAM, IBT, TWU and whoever the hell else I might have missed. Oh not to mention tons and tons of non Represented people all over the Airline Industry too.

Too many years and too many walking jackasses out there pointing fingers.

Are you f**king kidding? Think about how much the industry grew in aggregate from 1978 onward. I dunno who's teaching you history, but you're not getting your money's worth.

P.S. You're still looking backward. It's 2019. The future is now.

 

[Vortilon]

Blah Blah Blah you’re so full of chit you can’t even get in your house any more.

I bet you would sell your own Mother for an extra buck.

Again I can’t wait till people like you are long gone. The sad part is your stench will probably linger on long after you leave. What you tell the next generation will be an infection.

You will be waiting a long time douche bag, I hired in at a young age, we see your true colors now. Whats the matter, does the truth hurt? Should we be grateful to the TWU for all they have done for us? Oh, we have the next generation in training already, and they are not liking what they are hearing and seeing. We are hear to cheer them up!

 

[Vortilon]

Company plant.

Now that's funny..

He might be passionate on these issues, but not a company plant.

 

[bigjets]

Its in the August 2018 scope proposal to the company, para. J. states, "
At the DWH Base, the Company may designate and maintain a maximum of [50] DFW based line maintenance AMT's to work on the DWH ramp, and designate a hangar bay when necessary, to perform line maintenance work."

567 President and E-Board are adamant that they had no idea Peterson had inserted this language to relieve DWH of 50 AMT job and supplanting them with DFW AMTs. This leads me to wonder what other language the EC has inserted without my local presidents knowledge.

Isn’t this a good thing? 50 heads at DWH with line pay is better then having OH do line work without line pay. What am I missing here?

 

[WeAAsles]

You will be waiting a long time douche bag, I hired in at a young age, we see your true colors now. Whats the matter, does the truth hurt? Should we be grateful to the TWU for all they have done for us? Oh, we have the next generation in training already, and they are not liking what they are hearing and seeing. We are hear to cheer them up!

Yea go ahead. Go out there and tell lies to the kids. I’m sure a guy like you is going to be very proud of yourself for doing it. Create the next generation of unhappy disgruntled pricks. You’re nothing more than a big liar who needs to tell parts of stories and not the whole picture because maybe it’s YOU who feels like he’s a failure.

You’re the same as that other guy who comes here. Nothing more than a “Bad Salesman” who never could close the deal. And you NEVER will because there will always be more people who see through your BS for what it is.

Oh you’ll get people to yes you to death cause they don’t want to hear you but that’s it. Try telling the WHOLE story for once and maybe you’ll get closer to what you’ve always REALLY wanted?

NEXT?????

 

[WeAAsles]

Now that's funny..

He might be passionate on these issues, but not a company plant.

He’s not passionate, he’s an *****. The word starts with an I and ends with a T.

 

[Vortilon]

I ain’t apologizing for chit jackass. You know the real story since deregulation and the destruction that brought and then those terrorist attacks on America and you have a lot of gall to ignore it all.

F you I ain’t apologizing for anyone cause you aren’t owed any apology you ungrateful prick.

I can’t wait till dead wood like you is gone.

Ignore, hardly, the AMTs at AA saw the extra lengths the TWU went to - to screw them just a little bit more than everybody else after 911! I have forgot more about the airline industry than you will ever know, so don't attempt to lecture me about airline deregulation. That happened a long time before you hired on at AA.
BTW, you will be waiting a long time.
Oh, and yes you do apologize, and or make excuses for the TWUs shortcomings on a daily basis.

 

[Vortilon]

Yea go ahead. Go out there and tell lies to the kids. I’m sure a guy like you is going to be very proud of yourself for doing it. Create the next generation of unhappy disgruntled pricks. You’re nothing more than a big liar who needs to tell parts of stories and not the whole picture because maybe it’s YOU who feels like he’s a failure.

You’re the same as that other guy who comes here. Nothing more than a “Bad Salesman” who never could close the deal. And you NEVER will because there will always be more people who see through your BS for what it is.

Oh you’ll get people to yes you to death cause they don’t want to hear you but that’s it. Try telling the WHOLE story for once and maybe you’ll get closer to what you’ve always REALLY wanted?

NEXT?????

I can show them the whole story; you see, I like to save evidence of these failures. It will sell itself. As it turns out, I didn't have to say a thing, there are plenty of willing AMTs wanting to share their experience with the TWU and AA, suffice to say, it aint pretty.

 

[WeAAsles]

Now that's funny..

He might be passionate on these issues, but not a company plant.

BTW Vortilon it’s guys like you who feed on guys like him. Yea they were able to get through Trade School fine enough a long time ago, but they’re never gonna be called on to build Rocket Ships.