American Airlines and Labor Negotiations

[Tim Nelson]

First our current contract has the original language from our first contract when it comes to scope. The “ normal and customary “ language has been long established. The company can’t argue against this, that’s why they want to change that language to read “ core work “as has been said on here before. So the conversation took place on what the company considers core work. They stated loading and unloading aircraft only. Then conversations were had about different jobs that we currently own under the normal and customary, which was basically everything else. Again, they only want to recognize core work as loading and unloading. If you choose to not believe that? Then more power to ya.
Now if your question is have they specifically stated they want to get rid of bagroom work? No they did not. Of course they did not. But question to you and anyone that wants to believe they don’t. Is why do they want to remove the current language that’s already been established by many years of past practice.

the reason why they want to go to "core work" definition is because thats the iam language at united that YOU recommended. Why would Parker want to keep current language when you and sito recommended changing normal ramp to "core work"?
Core work at United means running and bagroom and i have it 100% confirmed that the company offered bagroom and running as core work.
Did you see the offer? I gotta think you have. But to answer your question, "core work" came into this industry by the unanimous recommendation of you and the 141 eboard.
Why would you ask?
regards,

 

[charlie Brown]

You can do better than that im sure.
The members want to vote. Whats the fuss? Dont think they will listen to you?
I put up a scientific poll 2 hours ago and its over 95% actually to vote. Doesnt ask how they will vote but members are uncomfortable with the same silly videos.
Admittedly, you seemed to be more convincing and no nonsense than the others but I gotta give weez more points than you since he had a picture with the grand poopa and you only got to sit next to Mr Wilson.

Hell, ill toss up a video tomorrow, im jealous!

When you say members! Who are you referring to? Your a non member correct?
So that means people have gave you a right to represent and speak for them? When did this happen?

 

[Tim Nelson]

A bit more informative than the Association Update:

http://www.twulocal513.org/docs/Membership Update 4-5-19.pdf

but the company has presented a proposal. They did so immediately prior to section 6. It was comprehensive. The union passes things back but the company hasnt presented "new proposals".
Actually for almost 2 years, fleet has been done, other than the company trying to get fleet done in early September and offered catering. That offer was quickly pulled when Sito countered with iam pension as well.
Game over.
Ice or vote

 

[Tim Nelson]

When you say members! Who are you referring to? Your a non member correct?
So that means people have gave you a right to represent and speak for them? When did this happen?

well, I guess thats a good question. As it turns out, none of us are members.
Ive been designated by the All Nelson Court Of Certifications to enter negotiations and clean up the chaos.

regards,

 

[charlie Brown]

well, I guess thats a good question. As it turns out, none of us are members.
Ive been designated by the All Nelson Court Of Certifications to enter negotiations and clean up the chaos.

regards,

You say good question but then as usual don’t answer. So tell me, since you say your a non member, who gave you the right to represent and speak for the members? You keep talking about these members. I mean, I know you have your 4 or 5 puppets on here, ( probably not 4 different people) but anyway. Who says you can represent and speak for them?
Members would LOVE to know?

 

[charlie Brown]

but the company has presented a proposal. They did so immediately prior to section 6. It was comprehensive. The union passes things back but the company hasnt presented "new proposals".
Actually for almost 2 years, fleet has been done, other than the company trying to get fleet done in early September and offered catering. That offer was quickly pulled when Sito countered with iam pension as well.
Game over.
Ice or vote

Wrong!!

 

[Tim Nelson]

You say good question but then as usual don’t answer. So tell me, since you say your a non member, who gave you the right to represent and speak for the members? You keep talking about these members. I mean, I know you have your 4 or 5 puppets on here, ( probably not 4 different people) but anyway. Who says you can represent and speak for them?
Members would LOVE to know?

I decided to get involved in negotiations by default.
Appointed by the All Nelson Court of Stand in the Gap.
Look, someone gotta jump in and educate the members. You guys keep saying 30 day cooling off. I think you guys need to hold off on that (maybe not you but peterson) until you find out what the mediators suggest. I think you are going to be surprised.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

i will do a video tomorrow and announce my arrival in negotiations. Negotiations happen outside the lil negotiations room. My main mission in negotiations will be to bring a vote since its already discovered that the company already offered its last best final offer.

regards,

 

[Tim Nelson]

The Real Rat Pack

 

[PIEDMONT784]

When you say members! Who are you referring to? Your a non member correct?
So that means people have gave you a right to represent and speak for them? When did this happen?

This one is easy... all of the negotiators on the company's side of the table are NON-MEMBERS...

 

[Tim Nelson]

This one is easy... all of the negotiators on the company's side of the table are NON-MEMBERS...

be careful, our entire negotiations committee is non members. And you can punt the anti union Tom Reagon to the other side. Our negotiation committee may not be dirty but he certainly is.

 

[dfw gen]

You can do better than that im sure.
The members want to vote. Whats the fuss? Dont think they will listen to you?
I put up a scientific poll 2 hours ago and its over 95% actually to vote. Doesnt ask how they will vote but members are uncomfortable with the same silly videos.
Admittedly, you seemed to be more convincing and no nonsense than the others but I gotta give weez more points than you since he had a picture with the grand poopa and you only got to sit next to Mr Wilson.

Hell, ill toss up a video tomorrow, im jealous!

a scientific poll? yea your an idiot.

 

[dfw gen]

well, I guess thats a good question. As it turns out, none of us are members.
Ive been designated by the All Nelson Court Of Certifications to enter negotiations and clean up the chaos.

regards,

All Nelson Court Of Certifications to enter negotiations and clean up the chaos. yup confirmed. you are an idiot.

 

[dfw gen]

i will do a video tomorrow and announce my arrival in negotiations. Negotiations happen outside the lil negotiations room. My main mission in negotiations will be to bring a vote since its already discovered that the company already offered its last best final offer.

regards,

this ought to be good. self designated? were you in negotiations seclusion last week? sharpening your sense of self importance? and what membership designated you? you,yourself and your imaginary playmates?

 

[cltrat]

this ought to be good. self designated? were you in negotiations seclusion last week? sharpening your sense of self importance? and what membership designated you? you,yourself and your imaginary playmates?

never underestimate the ego of a megalomaniac, he talks about this full proposal like he was at the table when it was handed out yet despite numerous requests as yet to provide proof.
He is full of chit