Al Gore

[Gilding the Lily]

Al Gore got some measure of redemption at the Supreme Court. Of course, it wasn't quite the redemption he was looking for. (See Bush v. Gore) The Court issued two rulings today that, taken together, amount to a rebuke of Bush’s major energy policies.

The High Court ruled that several states and environmental groups can sue the EPA over its refusal to regulate automobile emissions that produce greenhouse gases.

One Judge said:

“A well-documented rise in global temperatures has coincided with a significant increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere . . . EPA has offered no reasoned explanation for its refusal to decide whether greenhouse gases cause or contribute to climate change.â€￾

CNN article follows

 

[local 12 proud]

Al Gore got some measure of redemption at the Supreme Court. Of course, it wasn't quite the redemption he was looking for. (See Bush v. Gore) The Court issued two rulings today that, taken together, amount to a rebuke of Bush’s major energy policies.

The High Court ruled that several states and environmental groups can sue the EPA over its refusal to regulate automobile emissions that produce greenhouse gases.

One Judge said:

“A well-documented rise in global temperatures has coincided with a significant increase in the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere . . . EPA has offered no reasoned explanation for its refusal to decide whether greenhouse gases cause or contribute to climate change.â€￾

CNN article follows

When the Moron learns how to lead by example, He may get my attention......NOT

 

[local 12 proud]

How can this be?

Global warming according to Gore should Increase the amount of storms and their intensity, not decrease.

A weak-to-moderate El Nino occurred in December and January but dissipated rapidly, said Phil Klotzbach, a member of Gray's team.

"We do not think that's going to be an inhibiting factor this year," Klotzbach said.

The team's forecasts are based on global oceanic and atmospheric conditions.

The Atlantic hurricane season, which runs from June 1 to Nov. 30, averages 9.6 named storms, 5.9 hurricanes and 2.3 intense hurricanes per year.

The devastating 2005 season set a record with 28 named storms, 15 of them hurricanes. Four of those hurricanes hit the U.S. coast, the worst among them Katrina, which devastated New Orleans and leveled parts of the Gulf Coast region.

Gray has spent more than 40 years in tropical weather research. He heads the Tropical Meteorology Project at Colorado State.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,263595,00.html

 

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Story

"Some wealthy elitists in our country," he told the audience, "who cannot tell fact from fiction, can afford an Olympian detachment from the impacts of draconian climate change policy. For them, the jobs and dreams destroyed as a result will be nothing more than statistics and the cares of other people. These consequences are abstractions to them, but they are not to me, as I can name many of the thousands of the American citizens whose lives will be destroyed by these elitists' ill-conceived ‘global goofiness' campaigns."

Mr. Murray told me that the Democrats had tried to stop his scheduled testimony on March 20 before the House Energy and Mineral Resources Subcommittee, titled "Toward a Clean Energy Future: Energy Policy and Climate Change on Public Lands." But after Mr. Murray was interviewed by Bloomberg News and by the Wall Street Journal, they relented. The chairman refused to hear his testimony and left Rep. Patrick Kennedy, a Democrat of Rhode Island, in charge.

Right now about 52% of the country's electricity is generated by coal. In the coastal cities we tend to forget about that because we get most of our electricity from oil, natural gas, and nuclear power plants. But the farms that grow our food and many other industries around the country can't afford these more expensive sources of energy. Manufacturers will outsource jobs to foreign countries that will not subscribe to emission caps and controls. China is building 50 new coal-fired power plants, and Beijing has stated it will not agree to mandatory emission constraints in the post-2012 Kyoto treaty. Why are we being so stupid about this issue?

The irony is that these caps and controls will do little to affect climate. Timothy Ball, a renowned environmental consultant, testified before the committee that global warming is more likely to be caused by sun spots rather than human activity.

 

[local 12 proud]

Have a Look what those damn pesky polluting martians are doing...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...1&catnum=-1

 

[jerseyfinn]

A question.

Is a silent but deadly fart (SBD) considered simple air pollution or does it contribute to global warming?

Can I get a SBD carbon credit if I hold it in or do I still have to plant a tree? :huh:

Barry

 

[delldude]

A question.

Is a silent but deadly fart (SBD) considered simple air pollution or does it contribute to global warming?

Can I get a SBD carbon credit if I hold it in or do I still have to plant a tree? :huh:

Barry

Funny you should mention this.....

Latest on the issue

Gasification efforts

 

[Gilding the Lily]

The funniest quote by Justice Scalia about the EPA case:

“Not only is EPA’s interpretation reasonable, it is far more plausible than the Court’s alternative. As the Court correctly points out, ‘all airborne compounds of whatever stripe,’ ante, at 26, would qualify as ‘physical, chemical, . . . substance or matter which [are] emitted into or otherwise ente[r] the ambient air,’ 42 U. S. C. §7602(g). It follows that everything airborne, from Frisbees to flatulence, qualifies as an ‘air pollutant.’ This reading of the statute defies common sense.â€￾

 

[delldude]

Nobody mention global deforestation?

Surley one must take into consideation with fewer

trees,you will have higher concentrations of CO2?

 

[Gilding the Lily]

Nobody mention global deforestation?

Surley one must take into consideation with fewer

trees,you will have higher concentrations of CO2?

Why stop at that question?

What about the effect of melting polar ice caps on sea algae?

Without sea algae, we are in a world of hurt?

75% of the oxygen in the atmosphere is produced by marine algae.

 

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Why stop at that question?

What about the effect of melting polar ice caps on sea algae?

Without sea algae, we are in a world of hurt?

75% of the oxygen in the atmosphere is produced by marine algae.

One would think with all this friggin' CO2 abundance they should be thriving....

CO2...end result?

Oceans on fire?

 

[delldude]

Have a Look what those damn pesky polluting martians are doing...

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=07...1&catnum=-1

Jupiter kicks it up a notch

Neptunian moon?

 

[jerseyfinn]

. . . Nobody mention global deforestation? Surely one must take into consideation with fewer trees,you will have higher concentrations of CO2? . . .

Another point to consider.

Remember that the source all of the carbon that we today dig up as coal or pump out as oil which then becomes the frenetic focus of this new-found climate urgency has its origins millions of years ago as plants and things green ( perhaps with a dinosaur or two thrown in ). These materials have been locked up in the Earth's crust percolating and turning into what they are today. Same process is going on now and in the oceans to boot. So the Earth is a long time carbon vault.

I've not read a firm scientific calculation for what the Earth's true holding capacity of carbon and the like really is because I don't think that the experts can speak with absolute certitude on the subject ( though of course according to that highly trusted international body, the UN, they have " high certainty" that global warming is man-caused and immenently near :glare: ).

We really don't know how mother Earth works. I guess it figures that experts can look to Mars to tell us what's on deck for good old Earth.

I have however read scientific papers on ancient "super volcanoes" which erupt and expell so much gas and material in a short period of time that the result is a killing fog of gas which blankets huge chunks of land ( sulfuric acid et. ).

Of course this is different from greenhouse warming and I guess that the experts would turn this one over to the EPA and the injury lawyers.

Barry

Barry

 

[local 12 proud]

I knew there had to be a good reason Lance Armstrong dumped that nutcase. :wacko:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=55342

 

[jerseyfinn]

. . . I knew there had to be a good reason Lance Armstrong dumped that nutcase. :wacko: . . .


Although she's full of it, perhaps she holds it all in and can make do with one square. Then she'd really have something to Crow about. :blink:

I know that I would have struggled if I had follow her one square rule while struggling with food poisoning on a return trip from London.

On another note . . . .

Here's a link to a recent Economist article on trees and CO2. It basically argues that planting trees is not a half bad idea . . . so long as we plant them in the tropics where science affirms their usefulness to climate and the global paradigm.

I'm sure that Al Gore knew that but simply forgets to mention it.

Barry