Aircraft maint issues

[AANOTOK]

Company proposal with language is now on Jetnet. Check your email

My email doesn't say anything. Where is it on Jetnet?

 

[1986Mekanic]

groups/twu-iam

 

[AANOTOK]

groups/twu-iam

Thanks...no email though, strange.

 

[AANOTOK]

Sorry for the show of ignorance, but I have nothing in my AA email nor can I find it on Jetnet...where is groups? Sorry

 

[WeAAsles]

Sorry for the show of ignorance, but I have nothing in my AA email nor can I find it on Jetnet...where is groups? Sorry

https://newjetnet.aa.com/docs/DOC-34764

 

[WeAAsles]

I’m hoping to read the educated AMT’s and Related on this thread go through the proposal and discuss their opinions here.

 

[swamt]

At locations covered by this Section J and any other line maintenance location where the Company utilizes AMTs when an out of service aircraft is in need of towing to an aircraft maintenance hangar or other non-terminal location for purposes of maintenance, such towing will be performed by AMTs, including brake riding, and connecting ground power and ground start units at the hangar. All other towing shall be as directed by the Company

Hmm, I thought Peterson said, the company wanted Fleet to do all the towing to/from?

Curious about scope. Is it as bad as we all thought and as bad as the union was leading to?

 

[AANOTOK]

https://newjetnet.aa.com/docs/DOC-34764

Thank you

 

[bigjets]

At locations covered by this Section J and any other line maintenance location where the Company utilizes AMTs when an out of service aircraft is in need of towing to an aircraft maintenance hangar or other non-terminal location for purposes of maintenance, such towing will be performed by AMTs, including brake riding, and connecting ground power and ground start units at the hangar. All other towing shall be as directed by the Company

Hmm, I thought Peterson said, the company wanted Fleet to do all the towing to/from?

I thought this was always a BS argument as AA can have ramp do it now but don’t.

We were even doing wing walking for maintenance moves at the terminal for a while because we had mechs stuck in the ally for too long of a period. I hear at MIA mechs do the wing walking and hook up power and air when they tow a plane to the gate.

 

[scorpion 2]

Curious about scope. Is it as bad as we all thought and as bad as the union was leading to?

Just skimmed thru the scope clause and I have to say that’s the cleanest and most solid scope language I have ever seen as an AA mechanic.
All the caveats and BS have been removed that currently apply to our current scope.
50% outsourcing with the cleaned up language, station protection and the other language improvements make this scope one I can live with.
I have been one of,,if not the most,, vocal on scope clauses over the years and this is the first time I’ve read black and white and not ambiguous crap.
The twu over the years have come up with and or promoted and sold some of the most pathetic and ridiculous scope language that could possibly be written. They definitely had no hand in writing this one.


In conclusion I would take this 50% outsourcing scope as written over the current 35% as written any day of the week.

 

[1AA]

Just skimmed thru the scope clause and I have to say that’s the cleanest and most solid scope language I have ever seen as an AA mechanic.
All the caveats and BS have been removed that currently apply to our current scope.
50% outsourcing with the cleaned up language, station protection and the other language improvements make this scope one I can live with.
I have been one of,,if not the most,, vocal on scope clauses over the years and this is the first time I’ve read black and white and not ambiguous crap.
The twu over the years have come up with and or promoted and sold some of the most pathetic and ridiculous scope language that could possibly be written. They definitely had no hand in writing this one.


In conclusion I would take this 50% outsourcing scope as written over the current 35% as written any day of the week.

Sito won't allow it. We are all held hostages until he gets what he wants.

 

[1986Mekanic]

Curious about scope. Is it as bad as we all thought and as bad as the union was leading to?

I read through the scope and I didnt see anything that raised my red flags. Maybe I missed it.

What I find disheartening is Peterson and gang been claiming nothing in writing but bullet points from the company.. yet... there it is...

The health with no cap bothers me and the signing bonus is crap and what's the deal with retro. And vacation should be at 7 weeks and the profit sharing is crap. Fix those and I would look pretty seriously.

 

[1AA]

I read through the scope and I didnt see anything that raised my red flags. Maybe I missed it.

What I find disheartening is Peterson and gang been claiming nothing in writing but bullet points from the company.. yet... there it is...

The health with no cap bothers me and the signing bonus is crap and what's the deal with retro. And vacation should be at 7 weeks and the profit sharing is crap. Fix those and I would look pretty seriously.

Peterson was releasing updates with Company Lockouts and PEB's.
I don't see anything that drastic in the company proposal for him to threaten the membership with these extreme actions. Now that the company has released their proposal one wonders what's the next move from the Association?

 

[1986Mekanic]

Peterson was releasing updates with Company Lockouts and PEB's.
I don't see anything that drastic in the company proposal for him to threaten the membership with these extreme actions. Now that the company has released their proposal one wonders what's the next move from the Association?

Well, of course its the counter propaganda in the email and text msg first thing in the morning.

I believe the company thinks this package is what we want. Peterson and gang think we will vote in something that bad for us and the dues situation. The only way to get the thing moving is to vote on it, then the company would know we disapprove. Problem is, as a membership we usually vote and approve anything that's put in front of us in.

 

[B737 driver]

Well, of course its the counter propaganda in the email and text msg first thing in the morning.

I believe the company thinks this package is what we want. Peterson and gang think we will vote in something that bad for us and the dues situation. The only way to get the thing moving is to vote on it, then the company would know we disapprove. Problem is, as a membership we usually vote and approve anything that's put in front of us in.

The company thought the same thing with us at 6 years last year. I voted yes, because we didn't lose scope. Swampy and most people voted no because they wanted their full retro.Well due to circumstances and new negotiating people on both sides the company and ours they got it done. You guys control your own destiny it depends on what you want, and what you can live with. Good luck guys.