Aircraft maint issues

[WeAAsles]

I believe the IAM has to concede this one. They are greatly outnumbered....Now on to the medical!
Any predictions?

Yes. 17% of the cost for all moving back up over the life of the Contracts.

 

[MetalMover]

So it's just conjecture that fleet is being held up by maintenance.

 

[MetalMover]

Yes. 17% of the cost for all moving back up over the life of the Contracts.

One thing the association needs to realize, that unless both IAM and TWU are under one and the same contracts which includes ONE medical, they will be outvoted handily. None of this crap LUS keeps theirs and we keep ours. Ain't gonna fly.

 

[WeAAsles]

One day it may very well be your profession under attack.

I was rereading the threads and missed this one. You see hog again this is why you guys get hit with that elitist tag.

One day? Seriously.

A Flight comes in and I have to watch Swissport pick up the Mail and Fuel the Plane, Eileen come and inspect the bellies and clean the Plane, Envoy come and pick up Commuter passengers Bags and Skychefs come and Cater the Plane.

I took concessions in 2003 just like you guys. And we all lost our Pensions and Retiree Medical in the Bankruptcy.

And the Company is STILL wanting more from us.

One day? You see just by your comment alone tells me how blind you guys are to any other Group besides yours.

 

[WeAAsles]

One thing the association needs to realize, that unless both IAM and TWU are under one and the same contracts which includes ONE medical, they will be outvoted handily. None of this crap LUS keeps theirs and we keep ours. Ain't gonna fly.

The Company puts that out to divide us and you’re naive enough to fall for it?

BUT I think it was the FA’s who were given cash for one Group to make up for the other Group having another few years of cheaper Medical to ease them into the higher cost?

 

[MetalMover]

The Company puts that out to divide us and you’re naive enough to fall for it?

BUT I think it was the FA’s who were given cash for one Group to make up for the other Group having another few years of cheaper Medical to ease them into the higher cost?

WeAAz, let me share something with you, I have a friend who works at LUS. Known him for a very long time. We speak over the phone occasionally. He and his coworkers' MAIN concern is their medical. If they go to LAA medical, he says they take a paycut. He also hasn't stop reeling from the FCFS boarding issue.
I base many an opinion on what and WHO I know personally.

 

[WeAAsles]

Please elaborate how when we get to end the company imposes its terms and replaces workers. JUST like NWA/AMFA.
Either way the company wins.

So you think in such a tight economy with unemployment so low they just have people sitting on the bench waiting to get in the game?

Besides only since we’re chatting on here I give the odds of us getting that far about 5% and that’s being overly generous.

 

[Kev3188]

A Flight comes in and I have to watch Swissport pick up the Mail and Fuel the Plane, Eileen come and inspect the bellies and clean the Plane, Envoy come and pick up Commuter passengers Bags and Skychefs come and Cater the Plane.

I took concessions in 2003 just like you guys. And we all lost our Pensions and Retiree Medical in the Bankruptcy.

And the Company is STILL wanting more from us.

One day? You see just by your comment alone tells me how blind you guys are to any other Group besides yours.

“What we allow will continue.”

 

[MetalMover]

So you think in such a tight economy with unemployment so low they just have people sitting on the bench waiting to get in the game?

Besides only since we’re chatting on here I give the odds of us getting that far about 5% and that’s being overly generous.

You have heard of corporate greed and class warfare, haven't you?

 

[WeAAsles]

WeAAz, let me share something with you, I have a friend who works at LUS. Known him for a very long time. We speak over the phone occasionally. He and his coworkers' MAIN concern is their medical. If they go to LAA medical, he says they take a paycut. He also hasn't stop reeling from the FCFS boarding issue.
I base many an opinion on what and WHO I know personally.

That huge Medical hit is a big one for guys that have a Wife and 2 Kids under the best plan as I understand it?

We all know Medical costs are going to go up overall for the IAM Members. It’s about how much they go up and how fast it happens.

People also seem to forget about those dramatic raises we got in 2016 and the fact there will be more raises coming that absolutely blunt that cost rise.

 

[MetalMover]

Same question was asked by the IAM at Eastern and AMFA at NWA.

And no I do not live my life in fear, just reality.

 

[MetalMover]

That huge Medical hit is a big one for guys that have a Wife and 2 Kids under the best plan as I understand it?

We all know Medical costs are going to go up overall for the IAM Members. It’s about how much they go up and how fast it happens.

People also seem to forget about those dramatic raises we got in 2016 and the fact there will be more raises coming that absolutely blunt that cost rise.

I do not see the company increasing their medical coverage/costs ten fold. Regardless of their record profits.I just don't see it.

 

[MetalMover]

I understand and know all that. But it won't just be 30,000 ASSociation members. The pilots and f/a's will want it too, then it will be extended to ALL employees.
Yes, the company can afford it. But thanks to corporate greed, I do not see them doing it.

 

[MetalMover]

Which already paid for itself with cross utilization and longer top of scale progression.

 

[WeAAsles]

I understand and know all that. But it won't just be 30,000 ASSociation members. The pilots and f/a's will want it too, then it will be extended to ALL employees.
Yes, the company can afford it. But thanks to corporate greed, I do not see them doing it.

It’s all about Economic perceptions. The Company is Self Insured and since none of the Unions as of yet have the right to audit the costs they can charge whatever they want and claim they’re at the 21% restriction.

So the last few years they’ve been raising their costs even as overall Medical costs have been leveling out across the US.

So it’s easy to then bring the percentage down and make it appear as if we got some kind of deal.

They call that a classic shell game.