Aircraft maint issues

[WeAAsles]

Wez

Wezz I have been in business for almost 30 years, and they will tell you one thing to vote for a contract, and then when they have the language, the game changes. Heck where I am at, they really won't tell us what the maintenance footprint is, if you don't believe me, ask the American guys, how quickly stuff can change.

Who tells you how to vote for a Contract and why would anyone listen to someone else anyway? Aren’t we supposed to be educated or intelligent enough to make those decisions for ourselves?

And if down the line we regret the vote we made Why in the World are we blaming anyone else? Isn’t it kind of weenieish not to man up for ourselves and take our own responsibilities?

I rarely ever hear anyone just say “Chit I F’d up” Nope always someone else, not them. Too many damn weenies bro.

 

[B737 driver]

Who tells you how to vote for a Contract and why would anyone listen to someone else anyway? Aren’t we supposed to be educated or intelligent enough to make those decisions for ourselves?

And if down the line we regret the vote we made Why in the World are we blaming anyone else? Isn’t it kind of weenieish not to man up for ourselves and take our own responsibilities?

I rarely ever hear anyone just say “Chit I F’d up” Nope always someone else, not them. Too many damn weenies bro.

That's why you don't just look at money carrot, a lot of people do. That's why ours is taking so long, don't know about yours.

 

[WeAAsles]

That's why you don't just look at money carrot, a lot of people do. That's why ours is taking so long, don't know about yours.

Ours is taking what seems like long to many because there are multiple contracts with differing philosophies that needed to be put together and of course a whole list of other items that held up progress that need and needed to be addressed.

Actually yours should have taken a lot sooner than it has since it’s only one contract for one group. But yes I do firmly believe your Management also meant to stall you until the rest of the industry caught up.

With us though sometimes one group has to wait for the other to catch up. Right now Fleet is waiting for Maintenance but it has been reverse in the past.

 

[767 mechanic]

We did no such thing on our current section 6 cba that we ratified in 2014.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business...-others-approve-new-contracts-with-us-airways

No lies, no spin, only lies is your posts.

Your talking about what happened Boeing.

Mark Huffman is a Lead Stock Clerk in CLT, he is a shop steward in CLT.

Ken Coley is a heavy maintenance mechanic in CLT, who is on the Local Lodge in CLT's Grievance Committee.

So your lies are debunked.

Hey stupid in the 2nd paragraph it says that the voting was on Friday and results were released on Saturday. Now who is the liar???

 

[767 mechanic]

Unfounded and unsubstantiated rumor that I would HIGHLY and extremely doubt.

The comment in and of itself makes zero sense and comes off as completely ridiculous.

I don't know what your definition of unfounded and unsubstantiated is but the person I heard it from is on the negotiating team. So I think that would be called 100% substantiated. It does make since because the iam already gave up that O/S in there contract and they will do it again to keep the underfunded iam pension which the company wants to get rid of in exchange for a 401k.

 

[767 mechanic]

The conversation (argument) is annoying anyway. Always has been always will be.

If you don’t like what they decide you can vote down your TA. Doubt it will change anything anyway? Just delay things a lot longer.

The TA has nothing to do with seniority integration.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

We voted one day and ratified, the way we always do it.

Your lying and have zero clue what you talk about.

The IAMNPF is in the 90% range yet your frozen pension AA owes two billion dollars to. Money you will see and LUS won’t.

Premium Seniority most certainly does have to do with the JCBA and it’s an open item in negotiations at the moment.

What is with you and the Fake News?

We NEVER agreed too outsourcing, and we were able to bring back 50% of overhaul and no line maintenance outsourced.

You can’t say the same.

 

[WeAAsles]

I don't know what your definition of unfounded and unsubstantiated is but the person I heard it from is on the negotiating team. So I think that would be called 100% substantiated. It does make since because the iam already gave up that O/S in there contract and they will do it again to keep the underfunded iam pension which the company wants to get rid of in exchange for a 401k.

Anything they may have given up I’m going to assume was done at the hand of a BK gun pointed at them. Every Union pretty much over the years took a hit to the back of the head.

Honestly why in the World would any of them want to give up anything today?

 

[WeAAsles]

The TA has nothing to do with seniority integration.

At the end of the day a TA for a JCBA would have a lot to do with seniority integration because they can’t fully integrate the workforce until that’s finalized.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Abrogation

 

[WeAAsles]

Abrogation

Don’t know why we all seem to want to point at the Unions (Ourselves) as the enemies rather than the circumstances, situations, laws, Politicians, and Corporations that harm us and have forced us into the positions we fell into.

 

[B737 driver]

We voted one day and ratified, the way we always do it.

Your lying and have zero clue what you talk about.

The IAMNPF is in the 90% range yet your frozen pension AA owes two billion dollars to. Money you will see and LUS won’t.

Premium Seniority most certainly does have to do with the JCBA and it’s an open item in negotiations at the moment.

What is with you and the Fake News?

We NEVER agreed too outsourcing, and we were able to bring back 50% of overhaul and no line maintenance outsourced.

You can’t say the same.

And your response to your,fellow co workers explains why they can't count on the US air guys to get a fair contract, sad.

 

[swamt]

What I heard was the iam wants to allow the same amount of O/S.

Actually I heard the same but did not want to mention it until I had confirmation. Thx for that.

 

[swamt]

M/B does not say they cannot be stapled. It says fair and equitable and that is what we determine.

That's right 67. As long as both sides agree and both sides vote it is whatever is negotiated as in our case with AT, which both sides voted it in by an overwhelming 85% yes vote from both sides. Nothing is stated, as you say, it's all negotiated and then voted on.

 

[swamt]

We did no such thing on our current section 6 cba that we ratified in 2014.

https://www.dallasnews.com/business...-others-approve-new-contracts-with-us-airways

No lies, no spin, only lies is your posts.

Your talking about what happened Boeing.

Mark Huffman is a Lead Stock Clerk in CLT, he is a shop steward in CLT.

Ken Coley is a heavy maintenance mechanic in CLT, who is on the Local Lodge in CLT's Grievance Committee.

So your lies are debunked.

Wow. A lot of lead stock clerks running these contract nego's. No mechanics representing the mechanics.