You forgot to mention the hundreds that were hired for the 4th line of heavy maint which was the second heavy line added with AMFA not to mention all the mechanics that were hired for that line as well. The added c-check lines also added headcount too in several different cities. % of outsourcing has not changed hardly at all, it has remained the same of approx 75%, give or take a little, since day one uder the IAM (yes your little iamers were the first in the door here at SWA that started the 75% outsourcing. And currently we are closer to 70% as all lines of maint were pulled from Aeroman and they were doing a bunch. Now that I have a better understanding of who you are and the complete uninformed information you are posting about my airline and my union it all makes complete sense why you are so clueless.
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Tom Talbert 1888
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Did I touch a nerve Mr Flip Flop?
At LUS we had over 300 planes and 4,000 mechanics, you have 700 planes and less than 3,000 mechanics.
And one line doesn’t add “hundreds” of jobs, I see more fake news.
No line maintenance farmed out and 50% of billable hours of heavy maintenance must be done in- house.
If your contract is so great why was LUS and AA willing to give us your CBA lock, stock and barrel?
I’ll tell you why cause it sucks and would cause massive layoffs and cuts.
At LUS we had over 300 planes and 4,000 mechanics, you have 700 planes and less than 3,000 mechanics.
And one line doesn’t add “hundreds” of jobs, I see more fake news.
No line maintenance farmed out and 50% of billable hours of heavy maintenance must be done in- house.
If your contract is so great why was LUS and AA willing to give us your CBA lock, stock and barrel?
I’ll tell you why cause it sucks and would cause massive layoffs and cuts.
Nope. AMFA brings in negotiators from each group they represent, all of them from cleaners to Maint control. The exact opposite of what your asso. does. What you are claiming AMFA does is exactly what your asso. is doing to the mechanics right now. Think before you post man...
I didn't add words moron, I answered all your questions or comments, just broke it down below your statements so you could follow it easier. Language 101 man.
Didn't say one line moron. Said doubled the heavy lines, added c-checks in different cities, added new c-checks in BWI and chicago as well as hou and Dallas. Nice try won't work with me chief...
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Every member on the IAM side is a US employee, except for Sito and Tim Klima
Posting fake news again I see.
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Most items that have been agreed to within the Association if they are not an improvement to the best contracts I’ve read out there at least match them. And the Company even made it public that they were offering a 9% 401k Match.
When this is over your SWA Contract will not be superior to anyone in the Industry comparing AA, DL and UAL. AA is already above you in wages by roughly $8,000 per year and the IAM side has many of the same contractual items you currently enjoy.
Now not to say that once the Association is finished you won’t at least match the best in the Industry (perhaps) but you still will not have as many jobs as AA, DL, and UAL and you know that.
The last Peterson letter I shared does make it sound like the talks are close to completion? Being 100% honest you know you have currently no movement whatsoever at your Airline and why you’re all coming here.
My “guess” is you’re fearful of the lingering ghost of NWA and are desperately hoping these Mechanics would join you and bring life jackets? I told swamt that a long time ago. You need these people to join you far more than they need to go.
Does the NC have a "MECHANIC" representing the mechanics group??? No they do not as per your post saying you have a lead stock clerk representing the mechanic and class. I did not post fake news. Think and read before you spout off, as you see nothing, your killing your own credibility, actually here you have none anyway.
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All Negotiators for the TWU/IAM Association are separate and experienced in their individual Class and Crafts.
Maintenance Presidents and IAM 142 represent Mechanics and
Fleet Presidents and IAM 141 represent Fleet.
In the Executive Level Negotiations TWU has 2 Fleet and 1 Mechanic and IAM has 2 Mechanics and 1 Fleet.
It’s all very well rounded. And the Executive Level Negotiators confer with the Negotiating Committee on all issues and language.
If this needs to be continually explained here then either some have an extreme learning deficiency or they have nothing more than an AGENDA.
Maintenance Presidents and IAM 142 represent Mechanics and
Fleet Presidents and IAM 141 represent Fleet.
In the Executive Level Negotiations TWU has 2 Fleet and 1 Mechanic and IAM has 2 Mechanics and 1 Fleet.
It’s all very well rounded. And the Executive Level Negotiators confer with the Negotiating Committee on all issues and language.
If this needs to be continually explained here then either some have an extreme learning deficiency or they have nothing more than an AGENDA.
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Sito Pantoja:
Sito Pantoja has served as the IAM General Vice President assigned to the Transportation Department since January 2012. The Transportation Department operates from IAM Headquarters and administers approximately 150 contracts in the railroad and air transport sectors in the United States.
Pantoja initiated into IAM Local 1056 in Jamaica, NY in 1977 as an Aircraft Powerplant Mechanic for TWA. He served as a Shop Steward for Local 1056 until he transferred to Local 949 in St. Louis in 1988. At Local 949, Pantoja served as a Trustee, Recording Secretary and, in 1991, he was elected as the Chairman of the local’s full-time Grievance Committee. In 1996, Pantoja was assigned by IAM Air Transport District 142 to participate in the TWA Flight 800 accident investigation following the 747’s crash off the coast of Long Island.
Appointed as a Transportation Department Special Representative in 1999 and Grand Lodge Representative shortly thereafter, Pantoja then assumed the role of Transportation Department Administrative Assistant in 2005 where he served until becoming Transportation General Vice President in 2012.
After becoming Transportation General Vice President, now-retired International President Tom Buffenbarger appointed Pantoja as the IAM’s representative to the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) Rulemaking Advisory Committee (ARAC). The ARAC provides advice and recommendations to the FAA on rulemaking activity, such as aircraft operations, airman and air agency certification and airworthiness standards.
Also in 2012, Pantoja was elected to serve on the Executive Board of the International Transport Workers’ Federation (ITF), headquartered in London. Pantoja has also served as Chairman of the ITF’s Civil Aviation Section Committee since 2010. The ITF is a global federation of transportation unions representing millions of transportation workers around the world.
In 2014, General Vice President Pantoja was appointed to the IAM National Pension Fund’s (IAMNPF) Board of Trustees. The IAMNPF is one of the largest and well-funded multi-employer pension funds in the United States.
A graduate of New York City’s Aviation High School, Pantoja also hold a Bachelor’s Degree in Labor Studies from the National Labor College.
Sito Pantoja has served as the IAM General Vice President assigned to the Transportation Department since January 2012. The Transportation Department operates from IAM Headquarters and administers approximately 150 contracts in the railroad and air transport sectors in the United States.
Pantoja initiated into IAM Local 1056 in Jamaica, NY in 1977 as an Aircraft Powerplant Mechanic for TWA. He served as a Shop Steward for Local 1056 until he transferred to Local 949 in St. Louis in 1988. At Local 949, Pantoja served as a Trustee, Recording Secretary and, in 1991, he was elected as the Chairman of the local’s full-time Grievance Committee. In 1996, Pantoja was assigned by IAM Air Transport District 142 to participate in the TWA Flight 800 accident investigation following the 747’s crash off the coast of Long Island.
Appointed as a Transportation Department Special Representative in 1999 and Grand Lodge Representative shortly thereafter, Pantoja then assumed the role of Transportation Department Administrative Assistant in 2005 where he served until becoming Transportation General Vice President in 2012.
After becoming Transportation General Vice President, now-retired International President Tom Buffenbarger appointed Pantoja as the IAM’s representative to the Federal Aviation Administration’s (FAA) Rulemaking Advisory Committee (ARAC). The ARAC provides advice and recommendations to the FAA on rulemaking activity, such as aircraft operations, airman and air agency certification and airworthiness standards.
Also in 2012, Pantoja was elected to serve on the Executive Board of the International Transport Workers’ Federation (ITF), headquartered in London. Pantoja has also served as Chairman of the ITF’s Civil Aviation Section Committee since 2010. The ITF is a global federation of transportation unions representing millions of transportation workers around the world.
In 2014, General Vice President Pantoja was appointed to the IAM National Pension Fund’s (IAMNPF) Board of Trustees. The IAMNPF is one of the largest and well-funded multi-employer pension funds in the United States.
A graduate of New York City’s Aviation High School, Pantoja also hold a Bachelor’s Degree in Labor Studies from the National Labor College.
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They are all mechanics except for Dave Huffman.
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Tom I hit the button that says “Show ignored content” and read some of what you were arguing with.
I’m seriously wondering if that individual is completely nuts? The stuff he writes is F’n off the wall out there and he can’t stop.
BTW I got tired of arguing the word “promise” with him. Maybe Santa Clause promised him a bicycle when he was a kid and it wasn’t under the tree on Christmas morning when he woke up.
Here’s the reality. Generally and overall both Fleet and Maintenance at AA will have an Industry Leading Contract. Then Delta will leap that, and then will come UAL and down the road again it will be AA.
Meanwhile SWA will fall back in line where it started. As a fringe, excellent to work for, Low Cost Carrier.
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Probably should ignore the disturbed individuals myself.
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Mark Huffman.
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I think you are putting some serious wood on his flame. Seriously the guy is out there. The only person here who encourages him is conehead777 and he’s not that bright anyway.
