Aircraft maint issues

[swamt]

Because Tom is n700 a ex stock clerk not a amt

Oh I see, that explains a lot. I thought he was another one of them there AMFA hater mechanics from the IAM side as he just showed up in Nov. to the party. Thx for the heads up. I'll let his fellow co-workers take over for him.

 

[B737 driver]

Stock Clerks are on the same contract, so yes I would like a stock clerk there so that group has representation in negotiations.

There have been GSE, Plant Mtc,Utility and Stores on our previous Negotiating Committees.

Educate yourself on our CBA at LUS before you comment on something you have no idea about. Mr Flip Flop.

Would Stock Clerks like mechanics negotiating for them?

I wouldn't! 🙂

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Yes and they have improved the contract, brought in more work, added hundreds of headcount since AMFA's inception, doubling the heavy lines, added c checks, added work to backshops, installed limitations and now the co. needs union blessing to go over seas whereas the never needed the unions blessing before with the teamsters they just did it with no recourses from the teamsters because there was nothing in contract to stop them, no teeth.

Your headcount increased because your fleet increased and the purchase of Morris Air and AirTran increased your headcount.

15 years and your percentage of outsourcing increased, not decreased with the added mechanics.

 

[B737 driver]

Yes and they have improved the contract, brought in more work, added hundreds of headcount since AMFA's inception, doubling the heavy lines, added c checks, added work to backshops, installed limitations and now the co. needs union blessing to go over seas whereas the never needed the unions blessing before with the teamsters they just did it with no recourses from the teamsters because there was nothing in contract to stop them, no teeth.

Why argue with this guy Swamt , I actually feel sorry for the American guys, because this guy is all about himself!!! I hope they get an industry leading contract, but they will get there without his help. And if they don't then they can shop for new representation, or keep what they have.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Hey Mr Flip Flop.

Things must be boring and cold over at WN since your five year plus negotiations are on ICE.

Two years and we are almost done.

 

[B737 driver]

Your headcount increased because your fleet increased and the purchase of Morris Air and AirTran increased your headcount.

15 years and your percentage of outsourcing increased, not decreased with the added mechanics.

Morris Air only had about 15 airplanes, and those guys came in as new hires, the Airtran guys able to have 4 years on them, win! win! You Usair guys are lucky the American IAM/ TWU allowed your DOH, you could've been like TWA.

 

[WeAAsles]

Why argue with this guy Swamt , I actually feel sorry for the American guys, because this guy is all about himself!!! I hope they get an industry leading contract, but they will get there without his help. And if they don't then they can shop for new representation, or keep what they have.

Looks to me now as if many of you who don’t work for AA have sadly hijacked ALL AA threads.

I doubt anyone (who actually works for AA) is paying attention anymore?

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

I wouldn't! 🙂

So you want to deny other groups under the CBA representation at the table Mr Flip Flop?

Oh that’s right, that’s the AMFA mentality.

 

[WeAAsles]

Morris Air only had about 15 airplanes, and those guys came in as new hires, the Airtran guys able to have 4 years on them, win! win! You Usair guys are lucky the American IAM/ TWU allowed your DOH, you could've been like TWA.

No they could not. McCaskill Bond covered that even if it wasn’t a merger.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

Morris Air only had about 15 airplanes, and those guys came in as new hires, the Airtran guys able to have 4 years on them, win! win! You Usair guys are lucky the American IAM/ TWU allowed your DOH, you could've been like TWA.

Still ignores the fact your percentage of outsourcing has risen over the past 15 years, not decreased.

Why is that Mr Flip Flop?

15 years and counting.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

No they could not. McCaskill Bond covered that even if it wasn’t a merger.

Actually they could have if both groups agreed to it.

 

[swamt]

AMFA has been at WN for 15 years and have secured only one line extra and that was in exchange for foreign outsourcing.

Tom, just stop it, your above post is a lie. As I have already told you what AMFA has done since we fired the teamsters and it's way more than one line chief.


And you are wrong on who the IAM allows in negotiations, one of the mechanic and related is a lead stock clerk with no District title at all. He is a shop steward in CLT.

You have got to be kidding! A lead stock clerk is the mechanic and related negotiator?? Please for god sake tell me this is not so??? Not only is this a fleet union asso. there are no mechanics being represented by mechanics at the table??? That is just beyond stupidity. At least AMFA will bring in a full professional committee that are of the group they are nego with, ie; instructors, MC, FM, plant maint., mechanics, and cleaners. No wonder the mechanics are screwed under this asso. You guys need a craft union, get rid of this fleet powered union trying to represent you mechanics. Of course they are going to cater to fleet now, pathetic.



The vote you talk about is Boeing. My District had nothing to do with that.

 

[Tom Talbert 1888]

That’s not my post.

Don’t add words to it.

The LUS CBA is Mechanics, Stock Clerks and Utility

So you want to deny the other classifications who work under the same CBA, representation and a seat at the table?

And you say your not an elitist?

So all your mechanics are labor negotiations experts and professionals?

Instructors work under their own CBA.

 

[WeAAsles]

Actually they could have if both groups agreed to it.

And no one was going to agree to F the other anyway. (I know, I know someone is going to chime in TWA crap again)

 

[B737 driver]

Still ignores the fact your percentage of outsourcing has risen over the past 15 years, not decreased.

Why is that Mr Flip Flop?

15 years and counting.

Because it has always been SWA philosophy to have a smaller mechanics group and pay them, really well, and the last time I looked, you want me to play the asshole card, as a former Teamsters, fine . Even though you have a raise, our contract is far superior to yours..You guys should work to get our 401k match, overtime ect. Your American mechanics want that. But people like you will lick Parker's boots, as long as you have your IAM contract.