AA Down Under and Trans Pac?

[diamondcutter]

and you prove why you are incapable of having an intelligent discussion and instead injecting yourself into a relatively peaceful discussion which E and I were having.in case you read what I wrote, I specifically noted that Asia and Europe peak in the US summer. E's response and additional data was specifically in response to the expanded schedule data which I suggested provide a more accurate picture.here's the period 1 class for you today:just keep your nose out of any discussion that involves intelligent thinking or conversation and leave it to those who are capable of doing more than just slamming someone else.looks like the only one that schooled was you... but since your average in class is an F-, it is doubtful that you will get anything more than a social promotion.butt out until and unless you can actually contribute something intelligent the conversation.

Since when the hell are you a moderator?

 

[Kev3188]

 

Would this count as an example of an intelligent conversation?

"Strategic business discussion."

 

[nevergiveup]

uh, DL has been flying the Atlantic FAR longer than US has. It is US who has emulated DL's TATL strategy and not the other way around.

and if you want to use Feb capacity data, then AA will be a pretty small airline to Europe this year. It is precisely because AA's capacity will increase by the summer that using their summer capacity makes more sense.

DL increased revenue based on its Feb traffic report and projected RASM change. AA shrunk. UA likely shrunk as well.

Load factor means nothing if it results in losing revenue.

further, airlines have more than enough capacity available in the winter. The only reason NOT to fly more is if the pricing environment won't support the capacity.

DL is likely the ONLY one of the big 3 that will increase revenue in the first quarter based on increased traffic that offsets the RASM decline.

keep a finger on that stat but it will be one that will absolutely be worth comparing when 1st quarter financials come out about the 3rd week of April.

Remember when Delta had to get help from US Air training because of their trans-atlantic problems? You may be too young.

 

[dariencc]

Remember when Delta had to get help from US Air training because of their trans-atlantic problems? You may be too young.

 
Soon the wacko will be boasting about DAL's "textbook position reports."

 

[eolesen]

I see WT making a claim in Diamondcutter's quote above that he and I are having a conversation...

Nope. There is no conversation, nor will there be. It's been refreshing ignoring his posts entirely YTD, with the exception of having to see others quote his tripe, and I don't have time for bullies.

The *ONLY* reason for showing July and March is because different seasons have differing capacities. Anyone who has been around an airline for more than ten minutes would know that.

If WT thinks it was in response to some sort of a suggestion or a challenge, well, that's like thinking that shouting at the TV or radio can actually generate a response. This ain't the Truman Show.

 

[WorldTraveler]

horsefeces.

you are ignoring nothing.

You are pretending to be.

If you are ignoring me, then you show why you have left out of the conversation.

whether you or anyone else wants to believe otherwise, I said that choosing March as an example of a representative month for capacity made no sense while using a summer month made more sense.

If you came to the party late and didn't bother to see my comments, it makes you the fool, not me.


and as much as some people want to pretend otherwise, DL's NRT hub is STILL the largest US carrier TPAC hub in terms of seats and flights.

DL's ATL and JFK hubs are the number 2 and 3 hubs in terms of capacity. on a combined basis, DL's TALT network is the largest in the industry.

and DL is still the largest int'l carrier at LAX and with the introduction of LAX-PVG will also be the largest carrier in capacity on a nonstop basis from LAX to Asia to go along with its current position as number one in local passengers and revenue from LAX to Asia, regardless of how they are routed.

AA does have the unique honor of being the only airline that can connect the most service from Oklahoma to Hawaii via LAX.

 

[eolesen]

 

[WorldTraveler]

ignore my backside.

can you pull out your little schedule doo hickey thing, E, and verify for me the number of 5 continent hubs operated by US carriers?

DL and UA each have a couple at least - but I don't think AA has any, right?

 

[commavia]

 
Bwahahaha - classic.
 
I'll be the first to say that I do selectively read the B.S. - not because any of it is actually worth reading but because it is absolute comedic gold.
 
"Five continent hubs" - today's hilarity.  Man the desperation is getting even worse.  Fear, fear, fear.

 

[FWAAA]

JAL restarts LAX-KIX on Friday, March 20, with a 787-8, and although it's not AA metal, the flight will be operated as part of the AA/JAL joint venture, like every other TPAC market.

 

[eolesen]

I'll be the first to say that I do selectively read the B.S. - not because any of it is actually worth reading but because it is absolute comedic gold.

It was a little like quitting smoking. The temptation is always there to just light one up, but you still know your mouth will feel like an ashtray afterward, so why bother?

 

[diamondcutter]

horsefeces.you are ignoring nothing.You are pretending to be.If you are ignoring me, then you show why you have left out of the conversation.whether you or anyone else wants to believe otherwise, I said that choosing March as an example of a representative month for capacity made no sense while using a summer month made more sense.If you came to the party late and didn't bother to see my comments, it makes you the fool, not me.and as much as some people want to pretend otherwise, DL's NRT hub is STILL the largest US carrier TPAC hub in terms of seats and flights.DL's ATL and JFK hubs are the number 2 and 3 hubs in terms of capacity. on a combined basis, DL's TALT network is the largest in the industry.and DL is still the largest int'l carrier at LAX and with the introduction of LAX-PVG will also be the largest carrier in capacity on a nonstop basis from LAX to Asia to go along with its current position as number one in local passengers and revenue from LAX to Asia, regardless of how they are routed.AA does have the unique honor of being the only airline that can connect the most service from Oklahoma to Hawaii via LAX.

You really are nothing more than a sicko board bully !!

 

[WorldTraveler]

I am responding in the same manner that others have done. I'm not sure why anyone should be surprised at what they have.
 

Bwahahaha - classic.
I'll be the first to say that I do selectively read the B.S. - not because any of it is actually worth reading but because it is absolute comedic gold.
 
"Five continent hubs" - today's hilarity.  Man the desperation is getting even worse.  Fear, fear, fear.

of course it's funny- because AA doesn't have any 5 continent hubs while DL and UA do.

It is a sign of global strength.
 
 

JAL restarts LAX-KIX on Friday, March 20, with a 787-8, and although it's not AA metal, the flight will be operated as part of the AA/JAL joint venture, like every other TPAC market.

you do realize that AA and JL are each not even in the top 10 airlines from LAX to Asia by this summer, don't you?

in fact, DL is the only US airline in the top 10 to Asia from LAX - at number 5.

UA comes in right above AA but DOT data shows that AA puts a pretty small percentage of its US-Japan passengers on JL metal and vice versa so the concept of a JV is great in concept but in reality AA passengers constitute a couple rows worth of passengers on JL's flights.

 

[robbedagain]

AA   LHR; LAX; DFW; ORD; CLT; MIA; JFK; PHL; DCA (though not intl flights); PHX;
 
DL:  NRT (cutting flights); MSP; ATL; SEA (building up); DTW; JFK;  SLC;  CVG and MEM (both seen very bad reduction/cuts)
 
UA:  IAH; ORD; IAD; SFO; 
 
not sure what hub or huge ops overseas UA has  but this is in my own opin a pretty good idea of the 5 hub continents the dl preacher claims otherwise

 

[WorldTraveler]

robbed,
the concept of 5 continent hubs is that DL and UA each have hubs that serve 5 continents.

from ATL and JFK, DL serves North and South America, Europe, Asia, and Africa. UA serves the same continents from IAH since its only Africa route is to IAH.

AA only serves N and S. America, Europe, and Asia with its own metal so can't have 5 continent hubs.

and even though some people want to believe NRT is dead, it is still the largest US carrier hub on foreign soil with its own flights that actually go beyond the hub. That doesn't exist for LHR for any US carrier; DL did have that distinction with AMS and the BOM flight but that flight is ending.

NRT is also the largest US carrier TPAC hub between the US and Asia based on int'l seats- regardless of the side of the Pacific.

UA does have flights on its own metal beyond NRT as well.