2015 Fleet Service thread

[Black Magic]

Workbrain can now be accessed from home on December 2.Finally!regards,

That is fantastic news if so. I havent heard anything in Phx about the change. Any other confirmed reports? Hell on the Piedmont express ramp they can access their scheduling from home, why not mainline?!

 

[700UW]

As previously announced, on December 3rd, 2015, the TWU-IAM Association will
officially open negotiations with American Airlines and begin bargaining a joint
contract for the 30,000 ground workers at the world’s largest airline. We understand
that many of you are anxious to get to the table and we thank you for your
patience. Your representatives have worked tirelessly and carefully to ensure that
we enter into joint bargaining from a position of strength. We’re prepared and
we’re ready to fight to secure the best possible contracts for Association members,
including better wages, benefits, working conditions and retirement security.
The Association will communicate transparently with you throughout this process,
and we will work together, as one united organization, to put the members’ needs
first and to change the way the airline industry does business once and for all.
To that end, we’d like you to know that we’ve put the best, strongest negotiating
team in place to represent you. Below, you’ll find the names and locations for all of
the bargaining team members, whose expertise and experience will be critical as
we begin working through proposals with the company.
Mechanic and Related/Stores Negotiations Committee:
Jason Best, Local 514      Mike Bush, Local 591      Ken Coley, CLT
John Coveny, PIT            Dale Danker, Local 514   Mark Huffman, CLT
Bennie Martino, PHL     Gary Peterson, Local 591 Larrry Pike, Local 567
Sean Ryan, CLT               Jay Sleeman, DFW            Mark Strength, PHX
Fleet Service Negotiations Committee:
Mark Baskett, CLT            Mike Fairbanks, CLT          Pete Hogan, Local 510
Tim Hughes, Local 507    Mike Mayes, Local 505      Steve Miller, BOS
Brian Oyer, Local 513        Pat Rezler, PHX                  Art Risley, Local 529
Andre Sutton, Local 502   Rodney Walker, BDL         Bill Wilson, PHL
This team will be supported by the skills, knowledge and resources of two of the
most experienced and successful airline unions in North America, the TWU and
the IAM.
In the coming weeks, we’ll continue to provide updates on negotiations and other
important information. We’d appreciate your continued feedback and look forward
to moving forward with this dedicated and experienced team in place.
In solidarity,
Sito Pantoja and Harry Lombardo
TWU-IAM Association Chair and Vice Chair
- See more at: http://www.usaamerger.com/2015/11/30/association-to-open-american-airlines-negotiations-on-thursday-for-30000-ground-workers/#sthash.VNZgJCnt.dpuf

 

[WeAAsles]

As previously announced, on December 3rd, 2015, the TWU-IAM Association will
officially open negotiations with American Airlines and begin bargaining a joint
contract for the 30,000 ground workers at the world’s largest airline. We understand
that many of you are anxious to get to the table and we thank you for your
patience. Your representatives have worked tirelessly and carefully to ensure that
we enter into joint bargaining from a position of strength. We’re prepared and
we’re ready to fight to secure the best possible contracts for Association members,
including better wages, benefits, working conditions and retirement security.
The Association will communicate transparently with you throughout this process,
and we will work together, as one united organization, to put the members’ needs
first and to change the way the airline industry does business once and for all.
To that end, we’d like you to know that we’ve put the best, strongest negotiating
team in place to represent you. Below, you’ll find the names and locations for all of
the bargaining team members, whose expertise and experience will be critical as
we begin working through proposals with the company.
Mechanic and Related/Stores Negotiations Committee:
Jason Best, Local 514      Mike Bush, Local 591      Ken Coley, CLT
John Coveny, PIT            Dale Danker, Local 514   Mark Huffman, CLT
Bennie Martino, PHL     Gary Peterson, Local 591 Larrry Pike, Local 567
Sean Ryan, CLT               Jay Sleeman, DFW            Mark Strength, PHX
Fleet Service Negotiations Committee:
Mark Baskett, CLT            Mike Fairbanks, CLT          Pete Hogan, Local 510
Tim Hughes, Local 507    Mike Mayes, Local 505      Steve Miller, BOS
Brian Oyer, Local 513        Pat Rezler, PHX                  Art Risley, Local 529
Andre Sutton, Local 502   Rodney Walker, BDL         Bill Wilson, PHL
This team will be supported by the skills, knowledge and resources of two of the
most experienced and successful airline unions in North America, the TWU and
the IAM.
In the coming weeks, we’ll continue to provide updates on negotiations and other
important information. We’d appreciate your continued feedback and look forward
to moving forward with this dedicated and experienced team in place.
In solidarity,
Sito Pantoja and Harry Lombardo
TWU-IAM Association Chair and Vice Chair
- See more at: http://www.usaamerger.com/2015/11/30/association-to-open-american-airlines-negotiations-on-thursday-for-30000-ground-workers/#sthash.VNZgJCnt.dpuf

"Moving Forward"

 

[Koolcat]

Retirement Security is a subject that the association has not touched on , but let's not get it confuse with the IAMPF Pension plan that we might be force to join.

 

[bob@las-AA]

Retirement Security is a subject that the association has not touched on , but let's not get it confuse with the IAMPF Pension plan that we might be force to join.

Retirement Security: definition, hide lots of cash under your mattress. In other words, no such thing exists, especially if the IAM plans on pushing that $hit pension plan.     

 

[Worldport]

Retirement Security is a subject that the association has not touched on , but let's not get it confuse with the IAMPF Pension plan that we might be force to join.

Remember if  we are forced to join it will be the union not the company pushing it

 

[WeAAsles]

Remember if  we are forced to join it will be the union not the company pushing it

Let's say we are or wind up being "forced" to join it. Even though I haven't heard one peep that that's going to happen? Fleet will be looking at around an almost $6.00 per hour increase with shift differential. So if you don't trust the IAMPF just take 5.5% percent of that raise you get and you made up for the match loss.

$6.00 is a 25% raise from where we are now. So instead you just knock that raise down to 20% and sock the difference.

For new participants in the IAMPF "IF" we are included, don't plan to live off that investment if you can. Bank it for any large unexpected payments that might come up in retirement or use it for a nice once a year vacation.

There are ways around the problem that some of you guys are dreaming up.

 

[Worldport]

Let's say we are or wind up being "forced" to join it. Even though I haven't heard one peep that that's going to happen? Fleet will be looking at around an almost $6.00 per hour increase with shift differential. So if you don't trust the IAMPF just take 5.5% percent of that raise you get and you made up for the match loss.

$6.00 is a 25% raise from where we are now. So instead you just knock that raise down to 20% and sock the difference.

For new participants in the IAMPF "IF" we are included, don't plan to live off that investment if you can. Bank it for any large unexpected payments that might come up in retirement or use it for a nice once a year vacation.

There are ways around the problem that some of you guys are dreaming up.

I would prefer an option. We had the association forced on us,forcing  a retirement plan using my money is a little too personal.

 

[WeAAsles]

I would prefer an option. We had the association forced on us,forcing  a retirement plan using my money is a little too personal.

I agree completely and would like an option as well. The only problem believe it or not I still run across from people is that they are not putting anything into their 401k. All they're currently getting is the company 3% contribution.

It's just a query or a head scratcher but does it then have to fall on people being essentially "forced" to have something so they're not stuck doing this crap till they're 70 or even older?

Those same people I'm talking about are clueless on how to even look up or understand their frozen pension amounts.

Oy vey.

 

[Traymark]

I agree completely and would like an option as well. The only problem believe it or not I still run across from people is that they are not putting anything into their 401k. All they're currently getting is the company 3% contribution.
It's just a query or a head scratcher but does it then have to fall on people being essentially "forced" to have something so they're not stuck doing this crap till they're 70 or even older?
Those same people I'm talking about are clueless on how to even look up or understand their frozen pension amounts.
Oy vey.

To me, your logic is twisted.
So, because some folks decided to have a new car and 60" tv in every room instead of a good used one and maybe a nice 32", etc, and can't wrap their head around the concept of saving for retirement, we should all accept the IAMNPF because it's our "duty" to those that decided to live beyond their means and not plan for retirement?


If there are folks not putting anything into a 401 , there's no time like the present, make the turn now and start, you will be way ahead of the game even just 5 years from now, and YOU will be in total control of your retirement instead of relying on life long Union hacks to not steal your money from you.

Bottom line, the argument you made in post 1132 is maybe even more asinine ,
"Let's just accept the IAMNPF because we got a great raise and we can use some of that to pay for it." What?

How bout this, let's get the big raise and a nice increase on our 401 match and let those that are on the IAMNPF stay in it.
I'm sure your a great guy, but I'm glad you aren't at the table with the NC.

Peace

 

[Talos]

I would prefer an option. We had the association forced on us,forcing  a retirement plan using my money is a little too personal.

The IAM pension would be fruitless for most of the AA people. An increase in the 401K match would be a better thing and probably worth more also. Surely the TWU can figure this out and handle it. The pension is fine for the US people who have been in it for a good while. Let everyone have a choice. If I'm forced to use the pension and lose the 401k match I'll be quite unhappy.WeAAsles is right about many people not understanding the frozen pension and many also do not understand the new 401k situation despite much info being sent about it.

 

[WeAAsles]

To me, your logic is twisted.
So, because some folks decided to have a new car and 60" tv in every room instead of a good used one and maybe a nice 32", etc, and can't wrap their head around the concept of saving for retirement, we should all accept the IAMNPF because it's our "duty" to those that decided to live beyond their means and not plan for retirement?
If there are folks not putting anything into a 401 , there's no time like the present, make the turn now and start, you will be way ahead of the game even just 5 years from now, and YOU will be in total control of your retirement instead of relying on life long Union hacks to not steal your money from you.
Bottom line, the argument you made in post 1132 is maybe even more asinine ,
"Let's just accept the IAMNPF because we got a great raise and we can use some of that to pay for it." What?
How bout this, let's get the big raise and a nice increase on our 401 match and let those that are on the IAMNPF stay in it.
I'm sure your a great guy, but I'm glad you aren't at the table with the NC.
Peace

Some people also like to say that "you can't fix stupid" I think the problem with today's society is that not enough people are willing to even try.

It's a me me me World and we're beginning to drown in our own ocean.

 

[WeAAsles]

The IAM pension would be fruitless for most of the AA people. An increase in the 401K match would be a better thing and probably worth more also. Surely the TWU can figure this out and handle it. The pension is fine for the US people who have been in it for a good while. Let everyone have a choice. If I'm forced to use the pension and lose the 401k match I'll be quite unhappy.WeAAsles is right about many people not understanding the frozen pension and many also do not understand the new 401k situation despite much info being sent about it.

I'm actually considering taking the plan if offered to me. But as you can tell I have a plan on how to use it. And if the contributions are increased why not give it a chance IMO.

 

[Worldport]

Some people also like to say that "you can't fix stupid" I think the problem with today's society is that not enough people are willing to even try.

It's a me me me World and we're beginning to drown in our own ocean.

One can also say the TWU doesnt know what is best for me. Forcing the pension on us might be considered scandalous

 

[WeAAsles]

One can also say the TWU doesnt know what is best for me. Forcing the pension on us might be considered scandalous

Until the Monster actually comes out from under my bed to try and scare me, I'm still going to turn the lights out, close my eyes and get a good nights sleep.

But that's me.