Kev3188
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Electing an NC that knows WTF they're doing...NYer said:
2015 Fleet Service Discussion
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WeAAsles
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Ok in reading the contract Article 2 (iv) applies to the scenario I asked about if someone doesn't agree to the offer as an individual in a Station that votes to stay open. And Article 7 (H) down talks about what they are allowed for moving expenses, up to $10.000.
http://www.iam141.org/docs/2013-2016%20FLEET%20SERVICE%20EMPLOYEES.pdf
Under these sorts of circumstances I really miss the $12,500 special moving allowance we had in our contract before the BK judges hammer did away with it. (pmAA)
http://www.iam141.org/docs/2013-2016%20FLEET%20SERVICE%20EMPLOYEES.pdf
Under these sorts of circumstances I really miss the $12,500 special moving allowance we had in our contract before the BK judges hammer did away with it. (pmAA)
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La Li Lu Le Lo said:
I wasn't aware the AMFA was interested in representing Fleet Service.
ChockJockey
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WeAAsles said:Oh God please tell me not.
Rogallo said:They only represent skilled jobs.
I don't have anything against the AMFA and if I were a mech I might even support them. It's not an option for Fleet Service, so I don't know why anyone would put it forward in this, the Fleet Service thread.
The sense I get is that those who do support the AMFA and loathe the TWU are dead set on the TWU nonetheless being the sole bargaining agent for Fleet and MX as far as the current situation is concerned. Is that correct?
The company did this and made the split when the contract was negotiated.Kev3188 said:
They forced to make people choose in those cross utilized stations to choose ATW or BTW. When the tiered buyouts came, those people took ATW to get more money, (nearly 65K) leaving BTW not to meet the tier for the larger payout. I didn't like this "tiered buyout" scheme at all.
Those who can leave and take the system can with no problem if a deal is accepted. And exercise their seniority and bump as well.WeAAsles said:
10,000 moving allowance for the people who will move. If people leave and there isn't a full compliment at a station, they will probably hire off the street.
WeAAsles said:
I am wondering how split shifts will work in a place like IND? Some people can make it work if they are PT. I know people who got downgraded to PT that didn't accept the recall to FT because they had a better second job. But it is different for everybody.
IMHO, I think that people may accept this, especially those who cannot move or tired of moving. The rest will take the system (either at a newly insourced station or a hub - there will be vacancies) or buyout. The affected will find out their choices and options by the end of the month.
It's a hard choice for many, and I for one can't judge or begrudge their decision on what choice to make.
I for one don't like the precedent it sets. But my perspective is different being in a hub. We will just have to fight harder next year ('16) to save everything that is left.
WeAAsles
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They ultimately don't want any institutional unions representing them. TWU, IAM, IBT, CWA doesn't matter. They want a segregated class and craft union that only focuses on their issues alone mostly. They don't like being lumped into other workers concerns. IMO they want to isolate themselves.ChockJockey said:
MetalMover
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So why does that bother you? Let us sink or swim. Maybe if the mechanics left the TWU, fleet service might be able to negotiate a way better contract because of it. Are the pilots lumped in with any other work groups? Are they isolated? Wy not ask them if they want to join the TWU?WeAAsles said:
