2015 AMT Discussion

[Roadking5560]

That's pretty bad that AMT's have to ask their local presidents to ask the international for more representation.  You certainly would think at least 1 of these presidents would be smart enough to come up with this "idea" on their own!

 

[Rogallo]

I understand the Local Presidents are meeting with Lombardo in Washington next week. Why don't you ask the Presidents of Locals 514, 567, and 591, to recommend an AMT for an appointment to an International Staff Position?

 
Here's a concept............Why don't we nominate and elect a representative to an Int'l position??

 

[DallasConehead]

We get the representation we deserve.

 

[Buster CRC]

Here's a concept............Why don't we nominate and elect a representative to an Int'l position??

What Union do you think your in......AMFA?

 

[Badwlmson]

I am sick of hearing about amfa. We don't have them. We have an ASSociation that was forced on us. Let stand up and and stand together and fight for what we deserve in this contract. It doesn't matter who represents us if we fight amongst ourselves, which is exactly what we have allowed to happen over the years. Stand together, stand strong. Get what we deserve here and now and then we can work towards getting a union that best represents the wants and needs of aviation. And I mean all of it. Stores, fleet service. Mechanics. The pilots and flight attendants have power in numbers and unity. A union with only mechanics can't stop anything. But if you can service a plane, get parts to a plane, or load luggage then the plane goes nowhere. If mechanics stopped working it would take weeks to hurt the airline. But if we ALL strike we have power. No railroads, no bus drivers. But everyone else that isn't flying the plane or serving the passengers on the plane? That gives us strength. But ONLY if we STICK TOGETHER

 

[bigjets]

I am sick of hearing about amfa. We don't have them. We have an ASSociation that was forced on us. Let stand up and and stand together and fight for what we deserve in this contract. It doesn't matter who represents us if we fight amongst ourselves, which is exactly what we have allowed to happen over the years. Stand together, stand strong. Get what we deserve here and now and then we can work towards getting a union that best represents the wants and needs of aviation. And I mean all of it. Stores, fleet service. Mechanics. The pilots and flight attendants have power in numbers and unity. A union with only mechanics can't stop anything. But if you can service a plane, get parts to a plane, or load luggage then the plane goes nowhere. If mechanics stopped working it would take weeks to hurt the airline. But if we ALL strike we have power. No railroads, no bus drivers. But everyone else that isn't flying the plane or serving the passengers on the plane? That gives us strength. But ONLY if we STICK TOGETHER

 
 
You must be new!!!!!

 

[DNTULSA]

Real new.

 

[Badwlmson]

New? Are you freaking kidding me? Because I have common sense or because I think that the membership cacould actually stand together? I'm new to the forum. As far as AA, may of 89

 

[Badwlmson]

And I haven't voted yes on a contract in 26 years

 

[conehead777]

I am sick of hearing about amfa. We don't have them. We have an ASSociation that was forced on us. Let stand up and and stand together and fight for what we deserve in this contract. It doesn't matter who represents us if we fight amongst ourselves, which is exactly what we have allowed to happen over the years. Stand together, stand strong. Get what we deserve here and now and then we can work towards getting a union that best represents the wants and needs of aviation. And I mean all of it. Stores, fleet service. Mechanics. The pilots and flight attendants have power in numbers and unity. A union with only mechanics can't stop anything. But if you can service a plane, get parts to a plane, or load luggage then the plane goes nowhere. If mechanics stopped working it would take weeks to hurt the airline. But if we ALL strike we have power. No railroads, no bus drivers. But everyone else that isn't flying the plane or serving the passengers on the plane? That gives us strength. But ONLY if we STICK TOGETHER

it dose not matter the association is going to do whats best for them to get more due money.  they do not listen there is no accountability we can't vote out the international. i do not want a union with stores and fleet service as amts if you are a amt . we have different wants and needs as amts and look at the bk contract they took a week of vacation away from amts and gave a extra week to stores to get it to pass . I'm sick of as a amt getting less so other groups get more its time the amt stopped getting hosed by the twu/iam . 

 

[Badwlmson]

I understand the thinking of not wanting the other classifications included but we don't have the number to effect change with just mechanics. (I'm a mechanic on an MD80 heavy line in Tulsa btw) Stores is separate from us and that's what I'm talking about. We've allowed ourselves to be divided. The company, and past union leadership has allowed it. Dale Danker said it himself in last month's membership meeting. I don't believe our local membership is not the problem.....at least not anymore. Its an international that doesn't have our best interests at heart. They just want our amt dues in a Damn bus drivers union. They aren't getting more because we got less. They got more because we allowed them,to divide us. We have no strength in numbers. We have no unity. We have got what we deserve because fight amongst ourselves that the company can divide and conquer is with No EFFORT NEEDED

 

[Buck]

Although more a/c mx will likely be outsourced, no one should be naive enough to believe that ONLY a/c mx will be outsourced.

Correct, I was told long ago that for every 100 mechanics in TUL there is 1 stock clerk. I am sure it follows across the board.
 
I am posting and answering in a mechanic forum, at no time did I ever insinuate other work groups would not be affected.

 

[Buck]

Why are you guys on here so pessimistic about AA sending work outside. has a Union we should be fighting for Higher wages and better benefits. AA is making record profits and we should be insisting on doing more work in-house. We have given enough to this Airline. The time has come to not only get paid what the rest of our two competitors get paid without given one job back stop living in the past. They pay the pilots very well the Flight attendents very well and they have hire more of each. if those two groups didn't sacrifice jobs why should we. WAKE UP

When I speak like you do, as far as a layoff etc., I am reminded by those junior to me that I can weather any layoff.
 
I am pretty sure that the stock holders and the company do not share your view as to the higher profits the better compensation for labor rule. After many of us in the union are now stock holders.
 
I would have to ask a pilot or flight attendant if any of them suffered through the bankruptcy.
 
Wake up? Many here in this forum know how I would answer your declaration.... 

 

[Badwlmson]

They did not take a week from US and give it to them. They divided us and we allowed it! I don't know what locals,younger from but I can only assume that you're either at different membership meetings or you're not going because the bitching I hear on here is never mentioned,at the meetings by anyone other than me. In my personal opinion, only ***** on here then you need to stfu.I assure you, your voice isn't heard of you only ***** on social media and never go to a meeting. You're the problem of that's how you voice your opinion.

 

[Buck]

Was thinking that the association will present a proposal to the company. Does anyone know what's in it? Anybody ask us for the basics? No they did not. Why? Because if they did then the IAMPF would be off the table. What would be the odds that the mandatory enrollment of the IAMPF will be in the proposal to the company? I keep hearing from the association that they will take the best from both union contracts and put a proposal together. So which is best? The 401K match or the IAMPF?

Question:  TO MR. DANKER
What are we asking for?
Answer:
More of everything that is good and less of those things that were forced on us through bankruptcy.
We sent out surveys to all title groups. The results of that information was taken by myself to all 6 meetings of the Association reconciliations.
It is my belief as your voice on this team that we do not want to hand over the play book to our opponents.
So I get asked “What are we asking for?” Simply put, we are asking for everything and then some. I just want you to know that it is not an appropriate negotiation technique to advertise everything that is in our proposals. I know what you want and I am fighting to get it.