2015 AMT Discussion

Oldguy, the UAL rumor that they had a TA was exactly that, a rumor.  There has been postings that they are getting close, but nothing confirmed as you state. We have heard the very same rumors here.  Still amazes me that 2 airlines with the very same union representing them is taking so long when they have language that covers mergers with the same union. Typical teamsters progress and watch your back with them, they will screw you guys over in time, trust me, I have experienced personally...
 
While not exactly Mechanic, it is Title 1:
 
The Schedulers at TULE are going to finally have a meeting. What they do know is that
they are Title 1 and in the IAM. They have been told that their meeting will be with someone called
the IAMAW. They want to know who or what this is?
 
swamt said:
Yes this is terrible news.  However, I do remember reading that this was going to happen a long time ago, hence your "I'm not surprised" comment.  You guys are right, Tulsa is next to get hit, and this was told to you guys as well.  The hammer is starting to come to light, and Tulsa will start to feel it next. You guys were told and told, again and again that this was coming, we all read it on here and here it is coming to reality.  Most of you guys in Tulsa were blowing off the threats at Tulsa as well as at Tasel.  And here they are now coming to light.  I hate to hear this bad news but you guys were warned plenty of times during the AMFA card drive of what was coming in the future, and most of you thought it was all just AMFA threats to get more cards signed, well now you know...
Many of us in TULE know very well that the numbers here will go down drastically.  Funny thing is that the association stated the ratio of TWU to IAM members would not change but all the cuts seem to be earmarked for TWU members and not IAM.  Could it be the IAM has made side deals with Chug-A-Lug Doug?  I'm guessing they have and will continue.  The screwing Jim Little gave us by forcing us into the association is getting worse all the time. Just hope we get our seniority rights back so I don't get a choice between JFK, LGA and ORD.
 
I just hope it will not be one of those with the threat of 4000 jobs and then only 40 jobs were in jeopardy....
 
When this happens mechanics become supervisors.
 
Because US already trimmed all the fat in two previous bankruptcies.

And AA is transitioning to how US does maintenance.
 
OldGuy@AA said:
Many of us in TULE know very well that the numbers here will go down drastically.  Funny thing is that the association stated the ratio of TWU to IAM members would not change but all the cuts seem to be earmarked for TWU members and not IAM.  Could it be the IAM has made side deals with Chug-A-Lug Doug?  I'm guessing they have and will continue.  The screwing Jim Little gave us by forcing us into the association is getting worse all the time. Just hope we get our seniority rights back so I don't get a choice between JFK, LGA and ORD.
Well by the time tul gets hit, all the dfw and dwh openings will probably be filled by AFW mechs.

It appears that the iam didn't sacrifice their contract to save jobs like the twu did only to lose the jobs anyway.

So much for Union protection.
 
700UW said:
Because US already trimmed all the fat in two previous bankruptcies.
And AA is transitioning to how US does maintenance.
Yea we see how UsAir does maintenance. Massive outsourcing, bare minimums, no parts, procedures that inherently cause delays. Was the new maintenance logbook a UsAir way of doing things? How many times does UsAir have to come up with new uniforms until they get it right by asking the people that have to wear them? How does UsAir do maintenance on their IFE systems? You know the virtually non existent ones on their domestic aircraft? I seriously doubt AA is doing things like the UsAir way of doing things. It's just an ego thing with the new management. I would not boast the old UsAir on how they did things. We don't have multiple unions representing one group until now. What a disaster so far. I'll just stop right here with aircraft maintenance issues.
 
us way of maint is not good us pay is low like aa pay is low parker already showed is true color by going delta plus 7 to delta plus 3 but we are paying the ass to negotiate for us so they need to go for more then delta plus 7 but since both us and aa unions have negotiated the lowest rates . they have showed there true colors also so Tulsa and us mechanics should have signed amfa cards and we would have had someone doing what were paying them to do get us a industry leading contract . so to the ass  get off your ass and start negotiating if you come back with a losing contract will kick your ass out and get amfa
 
OldGuy@AA said:
Many of us in TULE know very well that the numbers here will go down drastically.  Funny thing is that the association stated the ratio of TWU to IAM members would not change but all the cuts seem to be earmarked for TWU members and not IAM.  Could it be the IAM has made side deals with Chug-A-Lug Doug?  I'm guessing they have and will continue.  The screwing Jim Little gave us by forcing us into the association is getting worse all the time. Just hope we get our seniority rights back so I don't get a choice between JFK, LGA and ORD.
No disrespect, but where the hell you been?  The IAM is in charge for the first, what 2 years? Of course the TWU members will be wittled down first.  Side deals? You better believe it. More like "behind close door deals".  When Jim Little gave you guys the screwing by forcing you all into this association WITHOUT a vote should have been the first clue to get another union in and fire both the TWU and IAM at both carriers. You guys had your chances to replace them, and had a long, long time to get the cards in, but everyone believed what the unions were telling the membership that there would be a vote on this association while all along I was telling you guys that there would not be a vote and the TWU and IAM was going to push this **** thru without a vote and force upon all of you. I have no sympathy for you and your members. Like I have said from the get go, you guys will get what you deserve when you all let this crap happen to you, instead of getting off your a$$es and doing your own homework to validate everything the unions were telling you guys, and of course you all ignored all the warnings that myself as well as others were working so hard to warn you guys about. So sorry for being blunt, but, I don't want to hear it...
 
bigjets said:
Well by the time tul gets hit, all the dfw and dwh openings will probably be filled by AFW mechs.

It appears that the iam didn't sacrifice their contract to save jobs like the twu did only to lose the jobs anyway.

So much for Union protection.
Union protection?  Not when you are represented by the 2 worst unions in the industry that constantly agree to everything the company always wants, C'mon man...
 
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