2014 Pilot Discussion

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CactusPilot1 said:
You voted in Ucrapa to EVADE, to CHEAT a process.
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I've never given so much as a hair off a rat's arse level of concern over any "process", but rather what effect any such has on people.  What's hilarious here is that your noble goal is to EVADE doing any honest work for your seniority, and to CHEAT other human beings out of theirs. How truly pathetic is that?..And honestly; how DO any of "you'se" manage to fantasize yourselves as "righteous" in your disgusting efforts?
 
Cactus: "You and your fellow Ucrapians who helped bust ALPA ......should be banned from the APA."
im back..!! said:
A statement from someone who probably doesn't even know where the APA came from.

They were the original "Throw alpa out" pilot group.....

Keep talkin, your impressing everyone... LOL
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Yeah, you couldn't ever begin to even try to make this kind of stuff up. That poor kid wouldn't make a believable character for use in children's comic books.
 
 
As APA continues the process of reviewing US Airways membership applications, we will soon begin voting on the approved applicants, followed by creating new APA domiciles and appointing interim domicile/board of directors representatives. The process is conducted in strict accordance with the APA Constitution and Bylaws. With more than 3,000 applications currently pending, the process works as follows:
  • The APA Membership Committee reviews all pending applications.
  • Those that pass the screening process go to an APA domicile for a vote by its members.
    APA Constitution and Bylaws Article III 1.C. states: "No one shall be admitted for membership who has willfully acted as a strikebreaker pilot, or scab pilot, or who has secured or attempted to secure employment rights as a scab pilot during any duly authorized pilot strike."
  • If a prospective new member is denied membership, APA will forego the normal dues revenue paid monthly by all members in good standing. That applicant becomes a non-member and will not be subject to monthly dues or agency fees.

[*]During this interim representation period, new applicants from US Airways will be represented by the geographically closest APA domicile (CLT: DCA, PHL: LGA, PHX: LAX). The voting for prospective new members will take place in each of these co-located domiciles.
[*]Once a sufficient number of applicants are voted in as members, new domiciles will be established in CLT, PHL and PHX. US Airways pilots in DCA will be integrated into APA's existing DCA domicile.
  • The number of domicile members will determine the number of domicile representatives, with 101 being the minimum number required for two domicile/board of directors representatives.
  • When a new domicile is established, the APA president will announce the appointment of each domicile representative, who will serve until a domicile election is held.
    For CLT, PHL and PHX, the election process will begin Oct. 9 with the "willingness to serve" forms being mailed to all members. Detailed information regarding this electoral process will be posted on domicile bulletin boards and mailed directly to all new members.


[*]Pilots who do not apply for membership within 90 days of the NMB's Sept. 16 determination or who elect to be non-members will be subject to the agency fee provisions of the CBA.
The APA national officers and other APA officials look forward to meeting each of you soon at upcoming information briefing sessions. During these briefings, we will provide an overview of the advantages of APA membership, including the various programs and services we provide that are tailored to the needs of our pilots and their families.
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Good news west pilots, you will not have to pay APA dues.
 
Claxon said:
Good news west pilots, you will not have to pay APA dues.
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West pilots learned the hard way about the meaning of "implicit assumption".
 
They will learn the hard way about the meaning of "status quo".
 
And many of them already have learned the hard way about the meaning of "germane".
 
They always seem to chose learning the hard way.  
 
Phoenix said:
That right there is funny.  Your "seniority list" link says "unofficial"... who has the "official" one?
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Do I have to do everything for you? Here's a clue.

"But, the failure of third parties to do what needed to be done has not stopped – and will not stop – the former America West pilots from pursuing their rightful claim to the fair, final and binding Nicolau Arbitration which was accepted by Doug Parker on December 20, 2007."

The rest of the story will be written to make the unofficial, official.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
Do I have to do everything for you? Here's a clue.

"But, the failure of third parties to do what needed to be done has not stopped – and will not stop – the former America West pilots from pursuing their rightful claim to the fair, final and binding Nicolau Arbitration which was accepted by Doug Parker on December 20, 2007."

The rest of the story will be written to make the unofficial, official.
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The West Donators should be concerned about the prospect of a West Merger Committee being emotional and overreaching in their argument to a panel of arbitrators.   Has the West so soon forgotten how they taunt the East for having been emotional and overreaching with Nicolau....?
 
The Status Quo is memorialized in each of the contracts of the three seniority lists... The Status Quo is in the MOU dated Dec 9th 2013, and it is perhaps most explicitly in the 2014  Protocol Agreement.  Any West accusations that the Status Quo is unjust, unfair, or illegal are not relevant to an SLI arbitration.  Such accusations properly belong in a court of law....  Any attempt to argue the Status Quo should be based on the 2005 TA... that might be seen as overreaching...
 
Arguing for a snap shot and constructive notice dated 2005 would at least be nostalgic, if not emotional.  
 
Claxon said:
Good news west pilots, you will not have to pay APA dues.
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So, the West pilots are all of a sudden scabs yet USCABA gladly had it's grubby little hands out demanding the highest dues in the industry. Now that's integrity. I'm impressed.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
So, the West pilots are all of a sudden scabs yet USCABA gladly had it's grubby little hands out demanding the highest dues in the industry. Now that's integrity. I'm impressed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o
 
Which one of these monikers is Munn? I have not been on this forum for quite some time. There are so few posters.
 
CactusPilot1 said:
So, the West pilots are all of a sudden scabs yet USCABA gladly had it's grubby little hands out demanding the highest dues in the industry. Now that's integrity. I'm impressed.
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"are all of a sudden scabs"...? Not hardly "all of a sudden" son.
 
"A SCAB is a person who is doing what you'd be doing if you weren't on strike."
"Australian Summary...85 America West and Braniff Scabs."
 
http://download.cabledrum.net/wikileaks_archive/file/airline-pilot-scab-list-2004.pdf
 
"Now that's integrity. I'm impressed."  Umm...Yeah...Me too. Words just fail me there...
 
Phoenix said:
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5t5aE0iW4o
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Evidently it wasn't enough just to BE a scab, but proudly "starring" in a commercial promoting scabbing was felt necessary? Whew! "Now that's integrity. I'm impressed."
 
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