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Monkee said:
Claxon came up a little short in life.
You associated yourself so long with trash, you now talk it. Can't believe you work with kids.Monkee said:
Let's get back to the facts:
Leonidas owes Marty 270k
Marty is itching to litigate once more. He is trying to cut a deal for the seat that the west does not have. He has a huge problem, and the west is spinning in circles. Everyone with a brain knows the Nic was killed. Big problem for Marty. If he ever got his seat, he can't begin to use the Nic as if he had it, he would not need the seat. west and Fergie wringing their hands on this one. Stand by, the lawyer with a not so stellar track record is skating once more on thin ice.leonidas about to step on another land mine.
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As American Air Pilots Take Over, America West Pilots Seek Refunds
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12884092/1/as-american-air-pilots-take-over-america-west-pilots-seek-refunds.html
http://www.thestreet.com/story/12884092/1/as-american-air-pilots-take-over-america-west-pilots-seek-refunds.html
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That boy and sidekick Luv9 better watch themselvrs with the new AA. They aren't going to put up with nonsense USA Today ads, false safety campaigns which are intended to disrupt operatons. The AA forums have a warning as well:Monkee said:
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CHEATS, like sending poo in the mail and tieing up the safety hotline. But hey be interesting to see since USAPA filed a DECLATORY JUDGEMENT in NC and they are just another LCC, they come after AOL for any litigation fees, hope they do to protect my refund, now remember no poo in the mail or rocks to APA!
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algflyr said:
I think I can answer your question:
April 15, 1999
Web posted at: 11:59 p.m. EDT (0359 GMT)
From Correspondent Charles Zewe
DALLAS (CNN) -- Saying it made him "sick to his stomach," a federal judge hit the American Airlines pilots Allied Pilots Association Thursday with a $45.5 million compensatory damage award for contempt for staging a sickout against the airline.
U.S. District Judge Joe Kendall held the Allied Pilots Association (APA) in contempt in February over the job action that led to the cancellation of nearly 6,700 American flights.
Allied Pilots Association officials say they will appeal. If upheld, however, the fine could wipe out the Allied Pilots Association financially. APA officials claim the Allied Pilots Association is worth about $38 million.
"We're obviously disappointed by the judge's award," said APA President Rich LaVoy. "We think we're a long way from this being fully adjudicated."
American Airlines spokesperson Andrea Rader said the airline takes "no particular pleasure" in the verdict.
Kendall acknowledged his decision might devastate the Allied Pilots Association financially.
"A lot of very fine people are going to be hurt and hurt badly by this ruling," Kendall said in handing down the decision.
During a two-day hearing earlier this week, Kendall heard testimony from the Allied Pilots Association and the airline about how much each side believed the incident cost the carrier.
Dollars to days out
About 2,500 pilots called in sick during the 11 days of the sickout that stemmed from a dispute over the integration of pilots from Reno Air. Reno pilots make about half of what American pilots earn.
American claimed the entire sickout cost the company more than $225 million.
The contempt hearing, however, focused on the two-day period that began with Kendall's February 10 back-to-work order and ending when pilots were cited with contempt and returned to the cockpit by the thousands on February 12.
The airline contends it could have resumed normal operations more quickly had pilots returned to their jobs soon after the judge ordered them to end the sickout.
"We would have recovered the airline two days earlier," said Tim Ahern, American's vice president for operations and scheduling.
Charts compiled by the airline showed that the number of pilots calling in sick actually increased after the back-to- work order.
American witnesses estimated losses for that two-day period at $50.96 million. Expert witnesses for the Allied Pilots Association put the losses at between $1-$4.5 million.
In handing down the fine, Kendall rejected Allied Pilots Association estimates as "unbelievable" and sided with American.
Another $10 million due Monday
As part of his ruling, Judge Kendall ordered the Allied Pilots Association to put up an additional $10 million by 4 p.m. Monday as a down payment on the damages. The Allied Pilots Association was ordered in February to place $10 million with the court in preparation of a fine.
Lawyers for both sides were asked to submit briefs on how the remaining $25.5 million should be collected and whether Allied Pilots Association officials should be held personally liable for the money.
In earlier testimony, witnesses for the APA said pilot work rules and contractual agreements prevented pilots from returning to work more quickly. But Kendall frequently interrupted airline industry analyst Robert Mann Jr. and at one point said Mann's comments and analysis were unclear.
The Allied Pilots Association contended that the sickout was a response to the stress of the labor dispute over Reno Air. Allied Pilots Association officials said the $45 million fine is not likely to prompt another job action. The issue over Reno Air remains unresolved.
"We're very disappointed the judge would come up with this number," LaVoy said. "If we're going to go forward, this is not the way to resolve the problems. It is a shame that we've come to this."
Labor peace at American has long been an issue. American spokesperson Rader says she hopes the award ends the dispute, which inconvenienced an estimated 670,000 passengers.
"They're victims of this -- as are we," she said. "We went to court to get the sickout to stop. We want to close this chapter and get on with labor peace."
Monkee said:
Speaking of "serious issues", little Monkee; I'll hope for the sake of the other poor, dumb animals inhabiting your fetid part of the zoo, and the health of your keyboard, that you at least wash your hands after each such episode of mindless, fecal flinging...but I've reasonable doubts such social graces were ever taught you.
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