2014 Pilot Discussion

[snapthis]

He was/is a pilot advocate. He will be missed by this pilot group, I assure you.

I have no ax to grind with Skinner and just learned of this development myself.

Rumor is he's head of pilot recruitment at Envoy.

 

[A320 Driver]

I have no ax to grind with Skinner and just learned of this development myself.

Rumor is he's head of pilot recruitment at Envoy.

Envoy? Oh...Eagle?

 

[snapthis]

Envoy?

Yes, Eagle

http://www.envoyair.com

 

[Pi brat]

The guys that brought you:
 
Carrying your own QRH, safety vest, checklist and 10,000AFL are running the place. Enjoy.

 

[A320 Driver]

The guys that brought you:
 
Carrying your own QRH, safety vest, checklist and 10,000AFL are running the place. Enjoy.

Yeah, nothing but love for us...

 

[Crzipilot]

We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I guess well just have to wait and see, all the while "Dictator Obama" will continue to usurp the Constitutional limitations and protections afforded by all americans and continue to turn our country into the left wing policies that communism and nazism clearly show to be against everything the american way stood for.  You can add "Obamaism" right up there with Hitler and Stalin.  Only those hard working men and women who invested in their 401k, home and business are going to lose it just like the pilots lost their "pension promise".  The government has to pay for all of those "promises" with something.  $17.6 trillion and climbing.  See you in the fall.

 
George W. Bush was notorious for using "signing statements" noting that the Executive Branch would not enforce particular parts of laws passed by Congress and SIGNED INTO LAW by himself.  And he used executive orders in far greater numbers than Obama has.  Yet, Obama is the "dictator," and W. gets to slide?  What are you ingesting?  I hope it's not one that they test for.
 
During the Reagan years, the United States went from the world's leading lender nation to the world's leading debtor nation, but somehow you manage to bury your collective heads in the sand and deify that moron.
 
Republicans really do live in a bubble of Fox News fantasy, and you are evidently a prime example.

 

[nycbusdriver]

I think Hope still there so Hope-fully, AB procedures remain intact.

 
Intact...as in not assigning green-dot speed as clean speed on takeoff and letting it rip right to 250 KT in the airport traffic area?  (A violable offense every takeoff,  basically, if one lets the automation do its thing as we are told to do.)
 
There's an AA "Boeing 727" procedure that has made it into the Airbus porcedures already.  "Adopt and Go" is a nice catchphrase to toss at the masses, but the camel's nose is under the tent.  The Airbuses will be "AA Boeing-ified" before there is a single operating certificate.  

 

[Crzipilot]

Sorry NYCBD,   I'd agree with you but most of the damn planes are heavy enough,  and especially the 321,   you don't reach green dot until about 3000 afl anyways,   so I really haven't seen a difference.    Except for us losing the pitch up for 10 secs and then subsequent pitch down as you pass that 3000'  altitude....  For the most part, most of the flights I've done,  it wouldn't have made a difference if you accelerated to green dot until 3k   or to 250 out of 1000'

 

[nycbusdriver]

Sorry NYCBD,   I'd agree with you but most of the damn planes are heavy enough,  and especially the 321,   you don't reach green dot until about 3000 afl anyways,   so I really haven't seen a difference.    Except for us losing the pitch up for 10 secs and then subsequent pitch down as you pass that 3000'  altitude....  For the most part, most of the flights I've done,  it wouldn't have made a difference if you accelerated to green dot until 3k   or to 250 out of 1000'

 
Just watched  closely my transatlantic A330-300 (flex) T.O. out of PHL.  Would have violated traffic area speed limit had we not intervened.
 
Maybe most of the time it works out.  What percentage of flights does the FAA allow us to bust limits?  It might be helpful if you have that answer.
 
Of course using the "close in" procedures we use outside of the US would solve the problem, too.

 

[A320 Driver]

 
Intact...as in not assigning green-dot speed as clean speed on takeoff and letting it rip right to 250 KT in the airport traffic area?  (A violable offense every takeoff,  basically, if one lets the automation do its thing as we are told to do.)
 
There's an AA "Boeing 727" procedure that has made it into the Airbus porcedures already.  "Adopt and Go" is a nice catchphrase to toss at the masses, but the camel's nose is under the tent.  The Airbuses will be "AA Boeing-ified" before there is a single operating certificate.  

Uh guys, there is no more "Airport Traffic Area". It went away with the redesignation of airspace years ago. The upper limit and subsequent speed limits are capped at 2500' AFL in Class C airspace. ATC has been on us for over a year to make this change. Let her rip. It will help with outbound traffic flow. And please don't hold the speed back until they turn you for DITCH. It just holds up the next departure.

 

[Freighterguynow]

We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.

 

[A320 Driver]

 

We are the Borg. Your biological and technological distinctiveness will be added to our own. Resistance is futile.

 

AT AT
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAdvqQzO1PY

 

[nevergiveup]

 
George W. Bush was notorious for using "signing statements" noting that the Executive Branch would not enforce particular parts of laws passed by Congress and SIGNED INTO LAW by himself.  And he used executive orders in far greater numbers than Obama has.  Yet, Obama is the "dictator," and W. gets to slide?  What are you ingesting?  I hope it's not one that they test for.
 
During the Reagan years, the United States went from the world's leading lender nation to the world's leading debtor nation, but somehow you manage to bury your collective heads in the sand and deify that moron.
 
Republicans really do live in a bubble of Fox News fantasy, and you are evidently a prime example.

It's the content, not the quantity.

 

[767one]

Have not heard. But do you really like carrying your own checklist, QRH and vest? I think Skinner honestly did a fairly good job. We had a great CQT program. You are going to not like the American system.
From what I have seen so far, Airways was far and away more progressive in the training philosophy, as well as operations day to day.
PS- don't forget to wear your vest on domestic walk a rounds....

 
 
Black Swan,
 
 I have to agree with you about the training.Even back as far as "78" when we had to use American's 727 sims in Dallas while we built our 727 sim it was apparent to me that our program was superior as was our sim even though at first it was housed in part of a cargo hangar.    When the first of the 727 went through the program we were using American's books and ground instructors.......the instructors were great, the rest of it ....not so much.
 
All the best,
 
Bob