2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[robbedagain]

Like I said  I doubt the JCBA will give away catering.   PHL CLT DCA  all the hubs  plus a few outlining cities such as BWI will continue seeing catering.  

 

[737823]

Robbed but again how is it fair to the membership to sell out the small stations to protect a privileged few?

Josh

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim  from what we all (at least in my station) is that in Nov when we move to the C pier the US furlough will have first dibs  then AA furlough  then transfers  and then hiring off the streets.   AA folks who accept it will keep the seniority for pay but in doing shift bids vacation bids they'll be behind us.     That is how we have been told anyhow....  

That is incorrect sir.  Who told you that? 
They agreed to recognize recall rights for preferential 'hiring' over a new hire.  It's not a recall, it's a preferential hiring over a new hire by recognizing recall rights.  Manpower must have completed their process because transfers started occurring Monday, yesterday, btw.

 

[Tim Nelson]

Robbed but again how is it fair to the membership to sell out the small stations to protect a privileged few?

Josh

the members have voted to sell out stations every chance they have had the opportunity.  In these JCBA talks, I suspect the union will agree to a ground floor with binding arbitration since that seems to be the direct path that Parker has laid down to the unions for consideration.  The idea with that is that the unions will get more for a quick contract and binding arbitration.  That being said, this isn't a environment to toss away catering or any more stations. I suspect a grandfathering of stations will continue, and lav will stay in certain airports, and catering/cargo in others. If Catering or anything else don't make the cut, then it would prolly be a time bomb thing.  When our group votes, and bombs are back ended instead of front loaded, the membership agrees to the immediate bull crap of 'yes we realize there are time bombs but we will be back in negotiations prior to make sure they don't pass.'  

 

[robbedagain]

Tim, we were told that repeatedly back just prior to voting on the current TA   Recall folks will have the first dibs   but the way I have heard is that US folks on recall will have the first shot   then AA folks   then transfers   and then hiring off the streets...     Josh most of the smaller cities are not going to have catering now as they most likely did not have it before my guess would be in the JCBA  grandfathering in all we have now  But you also need to remember this Josh  now that AA metal is included in the US metal count  the current contract states they cannot outsource unless its below the 1 ML a day 7 a week threshold so the small stations are protected at least for the next few yrs.   BWI is a small city just as JAX and PBI but as far as catering goes Josh  I think its to stay for the long term
Tim  I don't think it will be a quick and easy thing getting a JCBA but it remains to be seen who will be running the team  only time will tell

 

[Tim Nelson]

Tim, we were told that repeatedly back just prior to voting on the current TA   Recall folks will have the first dibs   but the way I have heard is that US folks on recall will have the first shot   then AA folks   then transfers   and then hiring off the streets...     Josh most of the smaller cities are not going to have catering now as they most likely did not have it before my guess would be in the JCBA  grandfathering in all we have now  But you also need to remember this Josh  now that AA metal is included in the US metal count  the current contract states they cannot outsource unless its below the 1 ML a day 7 a week threshold so the small stations are protected at least for the next few yrs.   BWI is a small city just as JAX and PBI but as far as catering goes Josh  I think its to stay for the long term
Tim  I don't think it will be a quick and easy thing getting a JCBA but it remains to be seen who will be running the team  only time will tell

Again, who told you that?
 
AA are not being recalled for LUS positions.  AA are being hired, preferentially so over new hires. 

 

[robbedagain]

our union reps had said that when they  made a station visit recently.  i do know in our sta we dont have any recalls as of now. 

 

[Tim Nelson]

our union reps had said that when they  made a station visit recently.  i do know in our sta we dont have any recalls as of now.

so handlow told you aa hirings go ahead of usairways transfers? I think u misunderstood as i doubt nick or any agc told u that. Stop spreading misinformation. Better yet, how about u inform yourself by reading the preferred hiring. And stop calling it a recall for aa. Its not an agreement to recall aa but to hire them over a new hire.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

Links to Preferential Hiring
 
http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Preferential-Hiring-Document-Fleet.pdf
 
 
Q & A
 
http://www.twulocal512.org/docs/QA%20Pref%20Hire%201%205.pdf

 

[AANOTOK]

Links to Preferential Hiring
 
http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Preferential-Hiring-Document-Fleet.pdf
 
 
Q & A
 
http://www.twulocal512.org/docs/QA%20Pref%20Hire%201%205.pdf

So clarify...was Robbed or Tim right?

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

I would expect system transfers rightfully take priority over preferential hiring positions.
 
Once system transfer list is exhausted, then you can go the preferential/street hire route.

 

[Tim Nelson]

So clarify...was Robbed or Tim right?

not about who is right. Read the agreement. Folks this isnt that difficult. Btw they already have accepted hundreds of transfers/upgrades as of today. When they are done, they will hire any aa that qualifies and wants to work under the terms. The preferred agreement is a benefit that should give aa laid off an opportunity they didnt otherwise have.

 

[Harry Callahan]

What Charlotte shift managers got canned ?
 
Harry

 

[robbedagain]

I would expect system transfers rightfully take priority over preferential hiring positions.
 
Once system transfer list is exhausted, then you can go the preferential/street hire route.

yes you are correct  system transfers take priority over preferential hiring

 

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