2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[mike33]

No one has talked about a buyout ,( if you want to call it that), does it not apply to anyone. Don't really know the specifics, but nobody has even mentioned it.

 

[BLUTO]

No one has talked about a buyout ,( if you want to call it that), does it not apply to anyone. Don't really know the specifics, but nobody has even mentioned it.

IF WERE LUCKY
NIELSON WILL
TAKE IT> N
GO AWAY!

 

[28L_or_10R?]

When I first started at America West they based pay raises on performance appraisals. The scoring had to be in pencil so the supervisor's boss could change it - usually downward. Many of these appraisals ended up being scored by friendships and what religion the scoree was. Yep. I went there.

 

[ograc]

At the end of the day policing the work ethic and job performance of the hired workforce is the company's responsibility, not the union's. Many, not all, newly hired employees may lack a work ethic, as seen by those of us who have been in the industry for many years. We come from a different time and generation. A time when loyalty went both ways; loyalty from the employee to the company and company to the employee. Those days are gone. What we witness now is a product of an environment where loyalty ceases to exist. The younger generation enters any job as just that. A job; not a career. I don't want to be misunderstood though. The work ethic of many, not all, of this younger generation is terrible. It is a sense of entitlement. A sense of immediate reward and gratification. IMO... mandatory 2 year enlistment into the armed services at high school graduation could put many in the right frame of mind. The military will teach them virtues and values their parents, obviously. failed to instill. However, when they sign that application and agree to dues deduction, they become union members. They, like all Brother and Sisters, are entitled to union representation. In closing; this issue cannot and will not be corrected with a JCBA. Can we move on please.    

 

[AANOTOK]

...and as I said in my first post, not laying blame, but if the company is responsible and they do nothing, the union has to protect them and they do not or cannot correct them, then I stand by my original claim, IF YOU START OUT A BAD WORKER OR BECOME A BAD WORKER, YOU WILL BOTH STAY A BAD AND STAY EMPLOYED.
 
Sure, lets move on....

 

[ograc]

...and as I said in my first post, not laying blame, but if the company is responsible and they do nothing, the union has to protect them and they do not or cannot correct them, then I stand by my original claim, IF YOU START OUT A BAD WORKER OR BECOME A BAD WORKER, YOU WILL BOTH STAY A BAD AND STAY EMPLOYED.
 
Sure, lets move on....

Agreed. Let us not waste time on issues that cannot be resolved with a JCBA. I'm not down dismissing the issue as being irrelevant. I just don't see how it has anything to do with JCBA talks going forward. Let's focus on what can be fixed with a JCBA.

 

[mike33]

If anyone is of interest, the Bonus is on this check.....

 

[700UW]

Ramp Preferential Hiring Agreement:
 
http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Preferential-Hiring-Document-Fleet.pdf

 

[robbedagain]

Thanks mike. I noticed that when I checked my paperless pay in wings

 

[WeAAsles]

The Association filed with the NMB for Single Carrier Status today.

 

[WeAAsles]

Ramp Preferential Hiring Agreement:
 
http://www.usaamerger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Preferential-Hiring-Document-Fleet.pdf

I heard that the association is putting together some Q and A's.

 

[ograc]

I heard that the association is putting together some Q and A's.

 
Thanks WeAAsles. When it comes out I strongly encourage members to review. Educating the membership with factual and authoritative information will be the key to building solidarity among both groups. As we enter into JCBA negotiations members need factual information not here-say and misinformation. The latter can be counter productive to the group as a whole. We need to exercise due diligence in research and education. The JCBA negotiations represent an opportunity, for all members, to share in the future success of this merger. Let's roll up the sleeves and get to work.
 

 

[rockit2]

The Association filed with the NMB for Single Carrier Status today.

If we are the number one airline and the number one profit maker then why should we settle for less than having the number one contract  which includes pay, scope and benefits. I hope the new negotiating committee stands on solid ground and the members back them to the hilt. Work safe thru these negotiations and let the management know we are a strong group to be delt with.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Good ole Raymond...............brings back a lot of memories.
 
Harry

Raymond Jowers was a good man, as was his brother Cornbread.

I hope both are doing well.

 

[WeAAsles]

Good morning gentlemen:

I was looking to get a little info and perspective from you guys. I understand in your CBA that the minimum shift hours a PTer can be assigned or bid is 3 hours. I was wondering in how many stations the company has those shifts and what are the rough percentages? Also can a basically new member make up some extra hours with working for others who want to take off?

Some of our members are concerned about this if they wound up accepting a preferential hiring position if it's offered to them?

Of a personal interest to me I was wondering about getting some info on FLL? I know we still have a while to go before we have a JCBA and I could even consider "maybe" transferring but nothing wrong with a little early inquiring. How many members do you currently have working there? What is the seniority like and what is the ratio of FT to PT?

Thanks people.