2014 Fleet Service Discussion
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Jester
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WeAAsles said:
WeAAsles,
As I stated, the local runner (along with the connect runners) are dispatched through the ROC (operations), so after the runners pick-up the bags, then they are done for that gate's flight. They don't come back and they don't assist any further with turning that flight. That leaves 2 assists (belly guys) and 1 lead to push out the plane. The lead 95% of the time pushes out the plane after closing out the flight -- there is no rule requiring leads to push out the plane, but few assists are comfortable in the task.
In terms of moving teams around, pretty much anyone above a team lead can move people around... of course, they do attempt to coordinate with other management types with varying degrees of success. Usually we discover the problem when a plane arrives and no team is there to marshall it in.
I haven't seen Management doing fleet work... in fact, I don't even recall any of them driving ground equipment (outside of an electric "moon buggy") either for whatever reason. Not that I put it past them, but I just think they are too lazy to actually handle a bag.
WeAAsles
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In 2003 I believe, language was inserted into our contract the the Crew Chief was to "assist" in the operation. That's been a problem ever since as there is no definition as to what "assist" means? My current CC does a little more because of that grey area then I personally would like him too and hopefully in the future we can get that language a little more defined?Jester said:
Glad to hear that you haven't seen management performing your work. I'd like to see that language removed from any JCBA we receive. The less management the better as we all know very well by now how to do our jobs and do not need them hovering over us when many of them were still in diapers when we hired on.
Kev3188
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I really miss that restriction... Our last ramp manager was nice enough, but was frankly a danger to himself and all around him. I didn't want him anywhere near my gates, no matter how short we were...
ograc
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There are currently over 30 stations on the US side where Fleet Service work is IAM represented. It is my understanding; there are approximately 17 stations currently represented by the TWU on the AA side. Represented work on the US side includes CLP, catering in PHL and CLT and tower operations in the hubs. Additionally, it is my understanding, there is no represented in house catering, tower or CLP jobs under TWU representation on the AA side. How do we bridge this gap in represented jobs going forward? Should this issue be seen as a priority for improvement in JCBA talks? The floor is open for input, opinions and discussion. JCBA negotiations will be upon us in the near future. It's time to begin debate and discussion on this and many other issues. Shall we begin?
robbedagain
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if AA does not have any one or all of those that we at PMUS have now why not bring that work back in house? raise the top out to around 26 or 27ish keep scope the way it is
cltrat
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How many I am not sure but it's like that here every department is there ramp catering cleaners etc and yes it can be chaotic sometimes I think they make changes like they get a commission off each one. I do know they have hired ramp tower off the street. it's very senior then very junior not a lot of middle ground.DFWFSC said:
WeAAsles
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I think one of our biggest issues was the loss of Cabin Service under the BK. The company had been trying to get that for over 15 years and was only able to finally accomplish that with a Judges gavel. That should absolutely be something that should be focused on in the JCBA talks if DP really wants to right a wrong that should never have occurred? Our negotiators even offered the cost needed to the company to keep cabin and were told NO, they wanted it no matter what!ograc said:
On the other front we used to have plenty of jobs that were lost over the years. IE: Fueling, Catering, Building cleaners, Employee shuttle bus drivers, mail and of course stations prior to the BK.
We have to remember that any jobs we hope to get back may come at a cost whether we care to admit that or not? My big one though again would be regaining Cabin Service. Those were good Senior jobs. Here in MIA that loss was about 350 heads. Those are jobs that members can go to when they get too old to comfortably be lifting bags anymore and provide relief to the body. Humping bags at 55 years plus is not something any of us should be hoping to still be doing even if we can or not.
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