2014 Fleet Service Discussion

[28L_or_10R?]

Some people on here need this.
 
http://youtu.be/8Gv0H-vPoDc

 

[T5towbar]

737
Currently there is no LAA in clt. Clt is contracted out. The only way a LAA guy would currently come to clt would be if under the TWU contract AA insourced clt by the TWU numbers. So no LAA guy could come to clt and pay IAM dues. The only time that would happen would be after a jcba which then we all would be under the same agreement, then that persons dues would then go to the IAM under the coalition.

 CB. 
I wanted to ask about that. In the situations where you have split operations (ie: US employees working on one side; and the AA side is vendored out - or vice versa) is there a chance that once a contract is done, you all will get all of the work? And how will the Association handle it? Will it be just AA or US employees get back and stay separate, or it will have to wait once there is a single joint seniority list? I know I am asking, because looking across the ramp, you have a split operation here at EWR, (US on one side - AA side vendored out) and I was just curious on how it was going to be settled once a contract is completed. Will "split operated" stations be totally insourced? I would hope that would be the case. And if so, there must be a timeframe to when that will happen, because in our case, the company is dragging out the insourcing (unless there are saving those spots for station closures and freezing the bid list).
 
Good luck to you all!!

 

[robbedagain]

that's good qestions T5 bec in my station American Eagle does the ramp   its my understanding that they will be offered jobs with us but if so they would bid under us   but before all of that at least from my station as I have heard there are only 4 or 5 AA on furlough that can be offered to come back  the seniority they have would be for pay but not for bidding   So I wonder if this is the same or similar type of way that will be handled across the system

 

[charlie Brown]

CB. 
I wanted to ask about that. In the situations where you have split operations (ie: US employees working on one side; and the AA side is vendored out - or vice versa) is there a chance that once a contract is done, you all will get all of the work? And how will the Association handle it? Will it be just AA or US employees get back and stay separate, or it will have to wait once there is a single joint seniority list? I know I am asking, because looking across the ramp, you have a split operation here at EWR, (US on one side - AA side vendored out) and I was just curious on how it was going to be settled once a contract is completed. Will "split operated" stations be totally insourced? I would hope that would be the case. And if so, there must be a timeframe to when that will happen, because in our case, the company is dragging out the insourcing (unless there are saving those spots for station closures and freezing the bid list).
 
Good luck to you all!!

That will all be discussed in the upcoming negotiations. I can tell you once the association is in control which will be when we get a jcba then each station will either be IAM or TWU. We will all at that point be under the same contract and I would expect do all of mainline operations in that station. As far as express work? That will have to be determined. The two unions are in the process of working on an agreement to bring back furloughed AA agents before hiring off the street. They would get pay seniority only, if they came back before a jcba since they would be coming back as US employee. Until a joint cba both sides will remain seperate with each our own cba. Not sure if this answers the questions?

 

[ograc]

As we move forward I'm assuming a joint Negotiating Committee must be established ,a  survey taken of the membership on joint contract priorities and a decision rendered on weather the Association will be recognized as the bargaining agent for the combined fleet group by the NMB. This decision will determine if an election is needed. If the NMB orders an election... this will be the first order of business. I'm curious how long we wait for this decision. 

 

[700UW]

http://youtu.be/mlUFyTnBtlE

 

[T5towbar]

That will all be discussed in the upcoming negotiations. I can tell you once the association is in control which will be when we get a jcba then each station will either be IAM or TWU. We will all at that point be under the same contract and I would expect do all of mainline operations in that station. As far as express work? That will have to be determined. The two unions are in the process of working on an agreement to bring back furloughed AA agents before hiring off the street. They would get pay seniority only, if they came back before a jcba since they would be coming back as US employee. Until a joint cba both sides will remain seperate with each our own cba. Not sure if this answers the questions?

 
So what you are saying that you all will be taking over the whole station and getting rid of the vendors in split operated stations? And if there are not enough AA agents who do not want to be called back to fill the station's compliment, will US agents take over (from a Bid List) or off the street hiring take place?
 
Just curious, because in our LOA, split operated stations are supposed to be insourced. But the company is taking their time in breaking the vendor's contracts. But it seems like they are saving those slots for station closures (they did that @ PHX for the CLE people) And they are finding "vacancies" at SFO for everybody else. This upcoming round, it seems like SFO will be the place to go for all ramp for some reason and not using the Juniority List. I think that SFO; IAH; and ORD would be junior, but the company can do what it wants. Less movement and more furloughs work for the company, it seems. So by looking at our deal, I guess your negotiators have seen our mistakes and can make the proper adjustments and contingencies to better your upcoming joint contract.

 

[AANOTOK]

Is there anything less than "zero" credibility?? If so Mr. Nelson, you have it. With all your ranting and raving, all your in the know, all your politicing and campaigning (all to which I found interesting and at times agreed) to just up and leave speaks volumes. You have lost something you will never regain!!

 

[P. REZ]

Tim,

I am always open to debate on how to make this a better place to work and encourage your ideas without the name calling. Like I've said to you before, work with us not against. My mind is open to any ideas you have that will move our Union forward for the betterment of all.

P. Rez

 

[Harry Callahan]

IMO Tim is only interested in Tim. I'd love to be wrong but I don't think he will work with any one.
 
Dave

 

[roabilly]

For those read here frequently, we ALL realize that Tim left with no credibility. That’s not our fault... it’s HIS fault for using asinine techniques like pseudonyms, personal attacks, and a general portrayal of ALL current leaders as being corrupt. The final straw was when he accused any of us that did not agree with him as being morons, Kool-aid drinkers, and liars! We were actually labeled as EVIL by this man, just for wanting to vote for the incumbents! He treated very intelligent, well read, and articulate members with condescension, and disdain. Further, his perpetual attempts at bending the truth were an insult to our intelligence...
 
So... yes, Tim left with no credibility, don’t feel sorry for him... he had already lost all credibility many years ago... I say... GOOD RIDDANCE! 

 

[robbedagain]

although yesterday? is or was the DOS  how come workbrain and myhr in wings does not have the pay scale updated yet?  just curious  

 

[charlie Brown]

Robbed
That was a issue they told us they might have. They weren't sure they could get work brain adjusted right from day 1 that soon. There are also several new issues with overtime in this t/a they will have to adjust to. Some of these things will take a little time, but we will get pay from yesterday when it went I to effect. Even if the worst case happened and they didn't get it in this check, then the next one would have to be retro back to the 21st.

 

[robbedagain]

thanks CB.  Do you know when the bonus will be    I told some folks here that it would be Aug 8 but no later than 22nd    but some are hoping for this friday but I dont think it would be that quick

 

[mike33]

thanks CB.  Do you know when the bonus will be    I told some folks here that it would be Aug 8 but no later than 22nd    but some are hoping for this friday but I dont think it would be that quick

In communication with an AGC that the hope is to cut a separate check for the bonus as it is taxed at a lower rate. If its put into your paycheck it is taxed much higher and by % you will see a lot less of it.