Yikes... don't know how you do it..

[QA4Jet-A]

There's no disputing that Airtran caters to a much lower class clientel. Which has hurt them in these trying economic times, as they are the first ones to tighten their belts and clamp down on discretionary spending. And while there's certainly nothing wrong going after Wal-Mart crowd, don't #### and moan when uncle Cletus and aunt Queeofus stop flying.

Trip 7.... I will dispute your comment in a Heartbeat. No matter how you try to shake it out, there are some folks who don't like your Airline anymore. Countless times, I have sat in our B/C, next to a CEO, Doctor, Lawyer, Joe the Plumber, etc, and have been told they will never fly Delta again.... Not to say we don't have our issues. Who doesn't? As far as Wal-Mart is concerned... Uncle Cletus & Aunt Queeofus are happy, I gave them my 'Happy Meal'.

 

[delta777]

No disputing? Why, because you say so? Put another way: "There's no disputing delta777's opinion". Riiiiiiiiight.

We "cater" to anyone willing to spend their money traveling by air. In your fantasy world, Uncle Theodore and Aunt Penelope's dollar bill is worth more than Uncle Cletus and Aunt Queeofus' dollar bill. Tis a shame and another example of you attempting to make yourself feel better by incorrect means.

If you look at AirTran's revenue passenger numbers, we keep setting records for more pax carried: 1stQ 08 - up 12.6%; 2ndQ 08 - up 3.3%; 3rdQ 08 - up 2.6%. If the "lower class" isn't flying as much, where are these additional pax coming from? Wrong again, 777.

Did you not take Commercial Aviation 101? Increasing revenue passenger numbers are worthless if you're lowering the ticket price to get the butts in the seats. Clearly Airtran hasn't learned that simple lesson, as judged by their poor 3rd quarter results. And while the "less fortunate" are still flying, mainly on Airtran and other LCC's, its abundantly clear that you've had to lower the price of your product to the point of taking huge losses to enable these bottom feeders to still justify the cost of an airline ticket, versus their usual mode of transportation, namely Greyhound.

Airtran is really small potatoes in Delta's eyes at this point. We have much grander plans.

And please don't think i dislike Airtran employees or its passengers. I don't. I do despise your management, however. As they were all too happy to "facilitate" US Airways in their hostile takeover attempt of Delta back in 2006. I actually think Airtran does a noble job of providing air service to those who would probably otherwise never step foot inside an airplane. I'm convinced to this day that Airtran is government-subsidized commercial aviation for poor people.

 

[InternationalShannon]

Wow!! I leave you kids alone for one weekend and this is what I come back to?

Delta, don't worry, I don't think the ATL is all ghetto, I would come visit you without my bulletproof vest, although I am not quite ready to step out into DTW yet. (I saw 8 Mile, no thank you)

Bradly - I'm glad you're glad you're white.

Q - You always rock my socks off, but I am missing the left one this time. Can you get that back to me?

and last, but not least, i think Air Tran airplanes are ugly. But other than that, i have only nice things to say.

And if I get into trouble for being off topic this flame bait thread, then OH WELL.

So sayeth the Shannon.

 

[Richard]

Let's keep this one on track folks--it's about an airline.

No racial slurs/comments will be tolerated.

Don't make us close this one.

 

[QA4Jet-A]

Wow!! I leave you kids alone for one weekend and this is what I come back to?

Delta, don't worry, I don't think the ATL is all ghetto, I would come visit you without my bulletproof vest, although I am not quite ready to step out into DTW yet. (I saw 8 Mile, no thank you)

Bradly - I'm glad you're glad you're white.

Q - You always rock my socks off, but I am missing the left one this time. Can you get that back to me?

and last, but not least, i think Air Tran airplanes are ugly. But other than that, i have only nice things to say.

And if I get into trouble for being off topic this flame bait thread, then OH WELL.

So sayeth the Shannon.

Shannon, I found your sock. It was on Blade #3 of one of my ceiling fans and I won't say what room it was in. It was pink, right? It now has a dust color but I can wash it and drop it off at my neighborhood Wendy's Drive-Thru!. I'll try not to toss into the Fryer. B)

 

[QA4Jet-A]

Wow!! I leave you kids alone for one weekend and this is what I come back to?

Delta, don't worry, I don't think the ATL is all ghetto, I would come visit you without my bulletproof vest, although I am not quite ready to step out into DTW yet. (I saw 8 Mile, no thank you)

Bradly - I'm glad you're glad you're white.

Q - You always rock my socks off, but I am missing the left one this time. Can you get that back to me?

and last, but not least, i think Air Tran airplanes are ugly. But other than that, i have only nice things to say.

And if I get into trouble for being off topic this flame bait thread, then OH WELL.

So sayeth the Shannon.

I hate the Livery as well. At least get the damn stripes straight. The 737s look like last weeks Tuna after a shark attack.

 

[nostradamus]

There's no disputing that Airtran caters to a much lower class clientel. Which has hurt them in these trying economic times, as they are the first ones to tighten their belts and clamp down on discretionary spending. And while there's certainly nothing wrong going after Wal-Mart crowd, don't #### and moan when uncle Cletus and aunt Queeofus stop flying.

Delta 777 it is interesting you are mocking other airlines about their fares. I have a link to a sight that shows some other airline that guarantees the lowest fair in the industry.

" "We know price is an important factor in your travel decisions, and you can shop with confidence at delta.com with our Best Fare Guarantee.

For eligible tickets, if you discover the same Delta itinerary (yes, that means the same flight, day, time, cabin, booking class, etc.) for a lower fare on Expedia, Travelocity or another online travel agency, we’ll refund your money or give you the fare difference and a $100 travel voucher." "

Click here to find the lowest airline fares in the industry, guaranteed

 

[mga707]

I hate the Livery as well. At least get the damn stripes straight. The 737s look like last weeks Tuna after a shark attack.

I like the AirTran color scheme! No, I won't call it a "livery"--this ain't jolly ol' England! <_<
It's probably my fave now that the "Jurassic Park" America West scheme has faded into history...guess I like schemes with green in 'em. Ah...Ozark's was a masterpiece....

On a related note: Just saw the AA 787 'artist rendering' in AW&ST...in the same 40-year-old colors! C'mon AA, get into the 21st century!

 

[Bradly71]

You imply that you were offended by being called names; so offended that you complained to mgmt. and HR. So if I'm interviewing you for a job, if I'm trying to find out if you'll be a hard worker, one who'll go that extra mile to make a customer happy and help make this company better, my lasting impressions of you are (because you complained during the interview process) that you can't stand to be called names and are offended by "ghetto" language. Your resume is going in the trash. We're in business to transport people and bags from A to B; not to make Bradly happy. If Bradly can work 2 gates at one time, offload 120 bags, upload 120 bags, and turn 2 planes, all in 45 minutes, I'll hire Bradly. If not, Bradly needs to learn to work with others, part of which is accepting that some people don't look like you, talk like you, or behave like you. They might even call you names, but so what???

Remeber, what you call GhettoTran was the company you were hoping would hire you. What does that say about you?

p.s. If you had called them the "N" word, they'd have killed you.

The chain of events is not correct in your reply.. not that it matters much. I was recruited and approached by that company several times at IND. I finally gave in and applied and interviewed. I was offered the job and it wasn't until after that happened that I experienced what I questioned. I wasn't "hoping they would hire me" - I was simply seeing what other opportunities were out there - they approached me. As for complaining - there were paying FL passengers who heard the same employee's say the same things that evening as did other employee's of other airlines. I could care less what they think of me over there - seriously. Again, I was trying to find out if IND was a good representation of that company or if it was strictly limited to that station. For what it's worth, I heard the GhettoTran name from a long time FL employee in another station.

 

[QA4Jet-A]

The chain of events is not correct in your reply.. not that it matters much. I was recruited and approached by that company several times at IND. I finally gave in and applied and interviewed. I was offered the job and it wasn't until after that happened that I experienced what I questioned. I wasn't "hoping they would hire me" - I was simply seeing what other opportunities were out there - they approached me. As for complaining - there were paying FL passengers who heard the same employee's say the same things that evening as did other employee's of other airlines. I could care less what they think of me over there - seriously. Again, I was trying to find out if IND was a good representation of that company or if it was strictly limited to that station. For what it's worth, I heard the GhettoTran name from a long time FL employee in another station.

Dude, regardless of what you have seen and heard, it doesn't matter. It's a done deal. You turned down the offer, but then came back here, of all places, and asked, if this was a common thing in IND. Your question has been answered several times, so why continue? Our Stations can have many nick's for our folks, depending on location. Our Airline has a few as well. Not to be biased, slanderous, or non-politically correct but, I have heard these tags... per city.
I find them humorous, not offensive, as perhaps others do. MSY = CajunTran, MIA = SpanTran, CHS = ChawTran, GPT = YepTran, SAN = CoolTran, LAX = RageTran, SFO = FagTran, DEN = SkiTran, LGA & EWR Combo.... extra points, OMGTran, PIT = StealTran, PHL = HellTran, FNT = JailTran, DTW = DeadTran, and my Fav.... MLI = EweTran etc. Now Sir Bradley, please just enjoy your time at Frontier. I'm sure you are an ASSet in whatever it is you do! Happy Trails to you !!! If in the future, you change your mind, I'll put in a good word for you with the SkyCap Captain! You seem to be a Great Team Player. If that doesn't work out, I hear IS is looking for an Assistant Fryer Loader @ Wendy's.

 

[InternationalShannon]

Yeah, come over to Wendy's but BoQueesha says doesn't like any of that fancy talk Stay out of her way and you'll do fine.

 

[North by Northwest]

Man...you guys really should be writing comedy! This is some of the funniest lip I have read in ages.

Whew! Clever devils.

thanks for the laugh!

 

[citrus jock]

Did you not take Commercial Aviation 101? Increasing revenue passenger numbers are worthless if you're lowering the ticket price to get the butts in the seats. Clearly Airtran hasn't learned that simple lesson, as judged by their poor 3rd quarter results. And while the "less fortunate" are still flying, mainly on Airtran and other LCC's, its abundantly clear that you've had to lower the price of your product to the point of taking huge losses to enable these bottom feeders to still justify the cost of an airline ticket, versus their usual mode of transportation, namely Greyhound.

Airtran is really small potatoes in Delta's eyes at this point. We have much grander plans.

And please don't think i dislike Airtran employees or its passengers. I don't. I do despise your management, however. As they were all too happy to "facilitate" US Airways in their hostile takeover attempt of Delta back in 2006. I actually think Airtran does a noble job of providing air service to those who would probably otherwise never step foot inside an airplane. I'm convinced to this day that Airtran is government-subsidized commercial aviation for poor people.

I took Comm. Aviation 101 up through the 400 series, as a matter of fact. Revenue pax numbers are worthless unless delta777 says, "...don't #### and moan when (passengers so low, not even DAL would carry them) stop flying"; then, they are very relevant. These aren't RPMs; these are passengers enplaned. No one has stopped flying; up 12.6%, up 3.3%, up 2.6%.

"Lowered the price of (our) product"???? Corresponding quarterly avg. fare increases: up 5.2%, up 8.8%, up 6.6%. You can't read an article on air travel without hearing complaints about rising airfares and other "fees". Come down off of your high horse so you can learn what's actually going on in commercial air travel.

You "despise" our management. How dare the leadership of one company (AirTran) publicly state their support for a competitor (Delta) to be taken over; it's just unheard of. You might be used to past management types at DL that sit on their butts and thumb their noses at the lowly competition; our's respects the competition, and adapts different strategies as necessary. How much "facilitating" could such a "small potatoes" airline do? On one hand, you state we're nothing, but on the other, you don't even attempt to hide your angst of the all-powerful AirTran.

Suggestion: go to airtran.com; pull up the last three quarterly reports. The numbers are there for you to see. Number of pax carried: up. Average fare: up. So, Mr. Commercial Aviation 101, why are we still losing money? Actually, you should be able to answer that without going to any website. Come back with some hard numbers, some facts. Your "Delta passengers are better than AirTran passengers, blah blah blah" while expected, is getting old. The rest of your stuff is just plain wrong.

p.s. If you "don't...dislike AirTran employees...", does that mean you like me?

 

[citrus jock]

The chain of events is not correct in your reply.. not that it matters much. I was recruited and approached by that company several times at IND. I finally gave in and applied and interviewed. I was offered the job and it wasn't until after that happened that I experienced what I questioned. I wasn't "hoping they would hire me" - I was simply seeing what other opportunities were out there - they approached me. As for complaining - there were paying FL passengers who heard the same employee's say the same things that evening as did other employee's of other airlines. I could care less what they think of me over there - seriously. Again, I was trying to find out if IND was a good representation of that company or if it was strictly limited to that station. For what it's worth, I heard the GhettoTran name from a long time FL employee in another station.

My apologies for the incorrect chain of events, but you post with a sense of naivete' about the airline industry. I like working with people who do their jobs first; they can try to change the world later, on their own time. You seem to be the opposite: you have a list of how coworkers should act, speak, behave, etc. Oh, and by the way, if we happen to transport passengers and bags from A to B, great. But, if not, oh well.

I don't know if IND is indicative of another station or not. I do know that when I go there, I get parked, unloaded, loaded, and pushed ASAP; that's whats matters to the people who pay my salary, and to me. If I had to listen to/observe juvenile behavior all day, I might think it matters more than I do now; but I wouldn't publicly ask, with racial overtones included, if an individual city at an individual airline is the only place in the airline world that I need to avoid.

 

[QA4Jet-A]

My apologies for the incorrect chain of events, but you post with a sense of naivete' about the airline industry. I like working with people who do their jobs first; they can try to change the world later, on their own time. You seem to be the opposite: you have a list of how coworkers should act, speak, behave, etc. Oh, and by the way, if we happen to transport passengers and bags from A to B, great. But, if not, oh well.

I don't know if IND is indicative of another station or not. I do know that when I go there, I get parked, unloaded, loaded, and pushed ASAP; that's whats matters to the people who pay my salary, and to me. If I had to listen to/observe juvenile behavior all day, I might think it matters more than I do now; but I wouldn't publicly ask, with racial overtones included, if an individual city at an individual airline is the only place in the airline world that I need to avoid.

Nice post CJ.