yep tulsa you were mislead by the twu AGAIN

[TWU informer]

That's it?? I expected so much more. lol I can live with that because I think it's funny But, you on the other hand should think about a personality overhaul if you plan to throw your name in the hat for the next election for TWU. You winning would most likely equate to you getting enough cards signed. You know the admire you for having high hopes but probably won't happen type scenario. The way things look around the base IBT is doing way better than you have in all the years you have been pushing and they have done it in a matter of months. I hear they are giving away FREE t-shirts soon. What did you have for free again paid for out of your drive expense account, Oh yah free black and white flyers and a binder with printed threads from here for people to look at. How much are your shirts again?? lol

That "free" tshirt would cost you $400.00 per year more in dues.
What was it made out of again? I bet it says "We will open your contract" on the back?

Didn't you learn anything from the TWU "free" tshirts? How much did those cost you anyway?

There is a reason why there are two horse faces on the IBT logo.
One for what they promise, and one what the truth is.

THE TWO FACED HORSE OF THE IBT​

PROMISES ON THE LEFT ------ TRUTH ON THE RIGHT​

THE FACE OF PROMISES

THE FACE OF THE TRUTH​

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

That's it?? I expected so much more. lol I can live with that because I think it's funny But, you on the other hand should think about a personality overhaul if you plan to throw your name in the hat for the next election for TWU. You winning would most likely equate to you getting enough cards signed. You know the admire you for having high hopes but probably won't happen type scenario. The way things look around the base IBT is doing way better than you have in all the years you have been pushing and they have done it in a matter of months. I hear they are giving away FREE t-shirts soon. What did you have for free again paid for out of your drive expense account, Oh yah free black and white flyers and a binder with printed threads from here for people to look at. How much are your shirts again?? lol

AC Tynker

Is your craft worth so little that a Free T-shirt or anything given out by any UNION organizer will swing your vote? Has the TWU taught you so little in all the yrs you have been here at AA? They will tell you what you want like any politician to get you to sign a card or vote for them. Do your own research, find out for yourself which union will represent you and all the members on your crew. Lets just start there since it is so hard to think about anything bigger here at AA. Look at what you and all the members of your station have and will give up now under the TWU. Isn't it worth taking a chance to try something new. We can always remove AMFA or the IBT if they do not protect our craft & class.

The line stations feel that AMFA is the way to go, we do have that right to believe that. O/H has another thought. At some point we all need to realize the TWU FAILED US ALL. Ask the Alaska and SWA guys if they are happy with AMFA. We can't get a true answer from the UAL guys until they finish the intergration between UAL/CAL. If it goes bad you can bet UAL will shed the IBT in a heart beat.

ITs time to get rid of the TWU, Start fresh and build a strong union at AA something that has Never been before.

Sign an AMFA card lets put it up for a vote and let the members speek.

 

[AC Tynker]

AC Tynker

Is your craft worth so little that a Free T-shirt or anything given out by any UNION organizer will swing your vote? Has the TWU taught you so little in all the yrs you have been here at AA? They will tell you what you want like any politician to get you to sign a card or vote for them. Do your own research, find out for yourself which union will represent you and all the members on your crew. Lets just start there since it is so hard to think about anything bigger here at AA. Look at what you and all the members of your station have and will give up now under the TWU. Isn't it worth taking a chance to try something new. We can always remove AMFA or the IBT if they do not protect our craft & class.

The line stations feel that AMFA is the way to go, we do have that right to believe that. O/H has another thought. At some point we all need to realize the TWU FAILED US ALL. Ask the Alaska and SWA guys if they are happy with AMFA. We can't get a true answer from the UAL guys until they finish the intergration between UAL/CAL. If it goes bad you can bet UAL will shed the IBT in a heart beat.

ITs time to get rid of the TWU, Start fresh and build a strong union at AA something that has Never been before.

Sign an AMFA card lets put it up for a vote and let the members speek.

Just pointing out to Informer that what he and others have said was a dilution hoax seems to be getting very real. I haven't signed a card nor do I plan to but as I have said before whatever Union we have representing us will get my support.

 

[Buck]

Then why take a position against or for any of them?

 

[BigMac]

Then why take a position against or for any of them?

DING DING DING!
We have a winner

 

[AMFAinMIAMI]

Just pointing out to Informer that what he and others have said was a dilution hoax seems to be getting very real. I haven't signed a card nor do I plan to but as I have said before whatever Union we have representing us will get my support.

AC Tynker

I guess Buck beat me to the punch, I see you mock the AMFA guys who are trying to change the culture here at AA. It is thier choice to attempt to bring this change if you are going to support what ever union is in Place then do so with your actions. But it seems you rather stir the pot on this site for your own enjoyment. Be honest with your self and the AMT's here answer this question. DO YOU believe that the TWU is the best union to take YOU through your remaining yrs here at AA? Honest Now????

If your answer is NO then Help us remove them and attempt to better the work enviroment for you and all the AMT's here at AA..

If you feel that you need to think about it do so, you can even print one from the internet and send it in rather than ask for one. But sign a card so the TWU can be sent packing.

AMFA may not be the answer but until we test try them we'll never know.

Many from the past fought hard to give you what you have today, lets set it right for the men/woman who will follow us in this career path. Lets give them a chance.

Safety in the air begins with Quality maintenance on the ground.

 

[TWU informer]

Just pointing out to Informer that what he and others have said was a dilution hoax seems to be getting very real. I haven't signed a card nor do I plan to but as I have said before whatever Union we have representing us will get my support.

Chronic Complainer strikes again.

Will not lead
Will not sign a card
Burned Out Years ago

What do you call "support"?
Sitting on your ass paying dues?

 

[AC Tynker]

Then why take a position against or for any of them?

As I have said before, the image that all of you from AA have painted for AMFA has been its biggest downfall. The way you conduct yourselves and your attitudes around the base you can thank your amateur recruiters that have done things in the past that nobody will forget. Sure you may have a few more cards signed but you still probably won't get the numbers you need. That is one of the reasons I do not think highly of AMFA at AA. I just heard a story a couple weeks ago from a toolroom stockclerk about a building cleaner getting cornered in a bathroom by a group of AMFA supporters and was intimidated into signing a card. It's many stories like that you have to be proud of, whether there is more less to story or not. That is the image that gets passed around.

 

[2ndGENAMT]

This is the image that you and others like to portray! Is a Building cleaner even in our Craft/Class??

 

[Bob Owens]

Not true. We found the bottom at UAL when we voted for amfa. The association, we found out, found even more ways to take us lower than we ever thought possible.

Lower than you ever thought possible? I guess you havent looked at our contract, less pay, less Holidays-and only half pay more if you work the Five holidays they recognize, less vacation from year one until you retire, less sick time, less IOD time, worse benefits and even worse work rules and we are stuck with it for at least 6 more years!!.

 

[TWU informer]

As I have said before, the image that all of you from AA have painted for AMFA has been its biggest downfall. The way you conduct yourselves and your attitudes around the base you can thank your amateur recruiters that have done things in the past that nobody will forget. Sure you may have a few more cards signed but you still probably won't get the numbers you need. That is one of the reasons I do not think highly of AMFA at AA. I just heard a story a couple weeks ago from a toolroom stockclerk about a building cleaner getting cornered in a bathroom by a group of AMFA supporters and was intimidated into signing a card. It's many stories like that you have to be proud of, whether there is more less to story or not. That is the image that gets passed around.

I keep hearing stories about IBT supporting machinist in the tool and die area that like to photograph and compare their turd sizes after visiting that same bathroom. Does this mean the IBT is a full of ####?

 

[Rogallo]

Lower than you ever thought possible? I guess you havent looked at our contract, less pay, less Holidays-and only half pay more if you work the Five holidays they recognize, less vacation from year one until you retire, less sick time, less IOD time, worse benefits and even worse work rules and we are stuck with it for at least 6 more years!!.

"The TWU is for You"

Get them the "F" off the property. What's the "F"ing problem?

 

[whatajoke]

Lower than you ever thought possible? I guess you havent looked at our contract, less pay, less Holidays-and only half pay more if you work the Five holidays they recognize, less vacation from year one until you retire, less sick time, less IOD time, worse benefits and even worse work rules and we are stuck with it for at least 6 more years!!.

Bob you took the company on and lost, a good leader knows when to attack and when to retreat, a good leader knows its members and if they will back him. You where advocating war and had no ammunition to fight you are pathetic give it up.

 

[Bob Owens]

Bob you took the company on and lost, a good leader knows when to attack and when to retreat, a good leader knows its members and if they will back him. You where advocating war and had no ammunition to fight you are pathetic give it up.

What would you know about leadership?

By the way the mechanics I represent voted 96% against the deal.

You cliam that mechanics have no ammuntion? You are the one thats pathetic.

 

[whatajoke]

Bob How many amts do you represent did you forget we are suppose to be a union there is other cities besides NY. a good leader makes sure majority are all on borad before going to war, a good leader has a plan what was you plan, ( hey guys the company wil give in) well they didn't. look in the mirror bob and be true to yourself for once. This is not the playground this is the big leagues and I think your contract has ended.