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DallasConehead
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2003 all over again..... Idiots....
yep tulsa you were mislead by the twu AGAIN
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I know there is more. But I heard 2 things mentioned and not talked about yet.
1- Hewitt is refusing to release the numbers originally "agreed to" by the union that the company can lay-off. First of all how can a union agree with lay-offs??? Way to go TWU.
2- At the end of the news cast the reporter says that the union has asked the company to re-look at the numbers. The company has agreed to do so. Watch out boys, here comes larger nubers in the lay-off column.
I also see this as a ploy. The TWU and company are setting a ploy. Company announces larger number of lay-offs (not only to the union) but thru the media, TWU says we are looking into it. Company so easily and quickly agrees to do a re-look requested by the union. Company will come back and say--"Oh sorry TWU we were mistaken" they will still lay-off the same original number of mechs, and the TWU will claim they stopped them from doing worse than what they "AGREED TO". You see, the TWU needs alot of ata-boys to re-coupe the membership quickly leaving the TWU in an up-coming election with AMFA. The company is merely helping the TWU to try and repair as the company wants nothing more than the TWU to remain on the property so they can continue to get "AGREED TO" conssesions from the TWU. Company union all the way boys...
I keep asking the same question over and over. Do you want the TWU to negotiate our next contract?
My answer is NO!
I am sure others feel the same but for some stupid idiotic reason they refuse to sign a AMFA card.
How many more guys have to lose their jobs?
My answer is NO!
I am sure others feel the same but for some stupid idiotic reason they refuse to sign a AMFA card.
How many more guys have to lose their jobs?
I guess these guys (TWU and teamster supporters) are just like drug and alcohol addicts. They haven't hit the bottom yet. They say that addicts have ti hit their bottom before they realize that they need to change or die. What in the hell are these guys bottoms?? How much more can one take. Totally agreeing with you 1AA...
AA89
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AA is about to hit the TWUs "bottom", deep and hard !!!
I see that. What has been said about the company getting with the TWU about the "inflated numbers" that are going to be laid off?
Overspeed
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The numbers are the ones in the 4/26 term sheet. The numbers are 60 off but it seems some jobs shifted from TUL to DWH.
AA89
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They are "looking into it". Probably will be a committee formed soon.Remember, the only hard numbers are dollar percentages allowed to be outsourced and those are numbers provided by the company. Headcount promised means nothing in my mind.
Anomaly
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Not true. We found the bottom at UAL when we voted for amfa. The association, we found out, found even more ways to take us lower than we ever thought possible.
Sign a AMFA card today people. Lets get rid of IDIOTS like Hewitt once and for all (and replace them with even bigger amfa idiots)
TWU informer
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Not true. We found the bottom at UAL when we voted for amfa. The association, we found out, found even more ways to take us lower than we ever thought possible.
Sign a AMFA card today people. Lets get rid of IDIOTS like Hewitt once and for all (and replace them with even bigger amfa idiots)
Interesting enough is the fact that the majority that was employed at UAL, they voted for AMFA.
It was the RIF's with lifetime recall rights that the teamsters promised false gains (pension return, and jobs back) that caused the change to the IBT.
And you call that a mandate and strength?
And I am no idiot, and I would contrast Hewitt or any other industrial unionist nicely.
Tex-Mech
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Sign a AMFA card today people. Lets get rid of IDIOTS like Hewitt once and for all (and replace them with even bigger amfa idiots)
So what you are saying that there is nobody at AA capable of leading under constitution that demands accountability? Interesting thought of what the teamsters think of us. So we should just leave the TWU and put our faith in a bunch of truck drivers doing the right thing, and have to pay them $400 more a year in dues? No thanks
AC Tynker
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You may not be an idiot BUT you're no example of a leader either, you forgot that part.
Really dude? C'mon man!...
Shifted or RIF'ed. Either way Tulsa gets reduced to smaller numbers. So where is the job savings that the 514 boys preached? You get shifted you have to pack up and move. You get thrown to the street you have to pack up and look for another job.
Either way the TWU local again lied to the membership. You can try to spin it but bottom line is 514 loses members and $$$$$$.
TWU informer
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My bet is that you are nothing more than a chronic complainer and would not even attempt to lead.
You whine, complain, piss, moan, and whimper, but you would do nothing to assist in change by either leading yourself, and/or getting a Union Constitution that allows for leader accountability.
I am not perfect, never claimed to be either, but I am willing to try. You on the other hand have no intention of doing anything more than whimpering and complaining about everyone that might step up. Your are the epitome of the problem and why we are where we are.
