I'm right. When a air train mech goes ahead of a SWA mech it is a loss of seniority. More than half lost seniority on this a/t deal even with a four year bump. How it went down doesn't matter. That's why 86% of the a/c mechs voted it in plus a huge pay raise. That means you could have got them for a six year bump and it probably would have still passed of course by a smaller percentage. AMFA screwed the pooch on this one. For myself I never liked the idea of mechanics negotiating. I would rather have ruthless al Capone types doing my bargaining for me. Backdoor deals made I could careless as long as we benefit. Backdoor deals are made all the time at the highest levels of government and business. Look at the present contract, basically a teamster negotiated deal. Most would vote it in again if the pay was adjusted. I hear it all the time that we should have kept the teamsters. Swamt - your good with numbers and history. We pay Seham @ $20,000 per negotiation session, a couple times over $40,000. Are they over charging for what we're getting? Ref: 2016 LM-2 annual report. Gosh one time on 4/26/2016 we paid The Dallas Morning News a payout of $31,941. Who's brainstorm was that? Talk about a suitcase full of money. Oh here's one, Hilton New Orleans for $25,890 paid on 6/30/2016. There's a lot more...