WN Mechanics seek mediation

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The majority of Southwest AMT's are not similar to B737 driver in their views or opinions.
Frankly, he makes us all look bad though.
Why because I think for myself, it's our money being wasted on this lawsuit, it will turn out just like the Arbitrator lawsuit, you better brush up on understanding contract language, and RLA, and quit being a stupid sheep.
 
Why because I think for myself, it's our money being wasted on this lawsuit, it will turn out just like the Arbitrator lawsuit, you better brush up on understanding contract language, and RLA, and quit being a stupid sheep.
It wasn't that long ago that the pilots filed a lawsuit over the max. Who knows, perhaps the pilots advised us to go for it. Better than sitting on our hands waiting for another year to pass without challenge.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-southwest-pilots-boeing-max-lawsuit-20160516-story.html

In regard to TWU's superior contract language I beg to differ. AA has $15,000 of my medical pre-fund match held hostage over inferior contract language that allows them to hold until "the successful completion of the 1114 process", which they obviously never intended to do.
 
It wasn't that long ago that the pilots filed a lawsuit over the max. Who knows, perhaps the pilots advised us to go for it. Better than sitting on our hands waiting for another year to pass without challenge.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-southwest-pilots-boeing-max-lawsuit-20160516-story.html

In regard to TWU's superior contract language I beg to differ. AA has $15,000 of my medical pre-fund match held hostage over inferior contract language that allows them to hold until "the successful completion of the 1114 process", which they obviously never intended to do.
What part are you guys so dumb, that you can't understand the PILOTS CONTRACT HAD SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR A DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT TYPE, OUR CONTRACT has no specific ETOPS language, AMFA never bothered to put it in there.So guess what Judge will say dismissed, SWA will use our own contract language against us.
 
What part are you guys so dumb, that you can't understand the PILOTS CONTRACT HAD SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR A DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT TYPE, OUR CONTRACT has no specific ETOPS language, AMFA never bothered to put it in there.So guess what Judge will say dismissed, SWA will use our own contract language against us.

driver has anyone actually tried to file that suit or is it nothing more than a hollow threat to try and force some movement in your talks?

I mean besides not following contractual procedures anyway how can they even think about filing a suit before any damage has actually even occurred? The threat to do so was just a little strange frankly.

Can you share a copy of the E-Mail from the Company here for readable interest?
 
It wasn't that long ago that the pilots filed a lawsuit over the max. Who knows, perhaps the pilots advised us to go for it. Better than sitting on our hands waiting for another year to pass without challenge.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-southwest-pilots-boeing-max-lawsuit-20160516-story.html

In regard to TWU's superior contract language I beg to differ. AA has $15,000 of my medical pre-fund match held hostage over inferior contract language that allows them to hold until "the successful completion of the 1114 process", which they obviously never intended to do.


TWU “Leaders” at that time did accept and bring to us extremely crappy BS language. They brought it to us because the Company wasn’t going to give them anything better while they held the BK Gun Barrel at all of us.

And because the Match was an issue they were all frightened we would vote no to the BK arm force contract if they didn’t give us some fluff.
 
It wasn't that long ago that the pilots filed a lawsuit over the max. Who knows, perhaps the pilots advised us to go for it. Better than sitting on our hands waiting for another year to pass without challenge.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/ct-southwest-pilots-boeing-max-lawsuit-20160516-story.html

In regard to TWU's superior contract language I beg to differ. AA has $15,000 of my medical pre-fund match held hostage over inferior contract language that allows them to hold until "the successful completion of the 1114 process", which they obviously never intended to do.
Well yours is better than ours, just says will provide medical plan , no control cost. I was talking about specific work rules.
 
driver has anyone actually tried to file that suit or is it nothing more than a hollow threat to try and force some movement in your talks?

I mean besides not following contractual procedures anyway how can they even think about filing a suit before any damage has actually even occurred? The threat to do so was just a little strange frankly.

Can you share a copy of the E-Mail from the Company here for readable interest?
Sure hang on
 
driver has anyone actually tried to file that suit or is it nothing more than a hollow threat to try and force some movement in your talks?

I mean besides not following contractual procedures anyway how can they even think about filing a suit before any damage has actually even occurred? The threat to do so was just a little strange frankly.

Can you share a copy of the E-Mail from the Company here for readable interest?
I couldn't find the email but this is our contract language the company quoted in the email
 

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driver has anyone actually tried to file that suit or is it nothing more than a hollow threat to try and force some movement in your talks?

I mean besides not following contractual procedures anyway how can they even think about filing a suit before any damage has actually even occurred? The threat to do so was just a little strange frankly.

Can you share a copy of the E-Mail from the Company here for readable interest?
And yes Weezz AMFA filed a Federal lawsuit to block the flights claiming that's our work, no meeting no vote, no discussion.
 
What part are you guys so dumb, that you can't understand the PILOTS CONTRACT HAD SPECIFIC LANGUAGE FOR A DIFFERENT AIRCRAFT TYPE, OUR CONTRACT has no specific ETOPS language, AMFA never bothered to put it in there.So guess what Judge will say dismissed, SWA will use our own contract language against us.
Lighten up Francis, I'm no lawyer and neither are you. In regard to the pilots the company thought it's a 737, what's the problem. They we're wrong and so were the pilots that may have agreed with the company. I hope this turns out to be something we can gain an advantage over but if not I'm in no hurry.
 
Seham and his merry band of misfits are the advisory legal Amfa team. Anyone can file any lawsuit for any reason. Does not mean it's legit or smart. Gonna be early- mid 2018 before they are in Federal courts over previous filings. Good luck on any forward progress.
 
Lighten up Francis, I'm no lawyer and neither are you. In regard to the pilots the company thought it's a 737, what's the problem. They we're wrong and so were the pilots that may have agreed with the company. I hope this turns out to be something we can gain an advantage over but if not I'm in no hurry.
I too hope we can gain some advantage, but let me ask this; say 10 aircraft on average overnight say in San Diego where we have no aircraft mx personnel. SWA decides to schedule mv type checks and hires a contract company in San Diego to do them. Where in the contract stops them? Read Scope article 2 paragraph 3. I'm trying to relate this to the etops deal. But you are right, not a lawyer so who knows.
 
Lighten up Francis, I'm no lawyer and neither are you. In regard to the pilots the company thought it's a 737, what's the problem. They we're wrong and so were the pilots that may have agreed with the company. I hope this turns out to be something we can gain an advantage over but if not I'm in no hurry.
As a steward I had to know language to argue a grievance and win it, including all the way to a system board, and I know what language means.Now I will wait for the Hack attack.
 

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