WN Mechanics seek mediation

[Go Figure]

Was told years ago don't dialouge with a disgruntled uninformed mad retard with chip on their shoulder that have never lead anyone or dealt with issues in reality land. They will just try to take you down to their level. Think the advice applies to Hackboy and swamt. It is what it is. Just the facts- just the facts ma'am!!!

 

[B737 driver]

Was told years ago don't dialouge with a disgruntled uninformed mad retard with chip on their shoulder that have never lead anyone or dealt with issues in reality land. They will just try to take you down to their level. Think the advice applies to Hackboy and swamt. It is what it is. Just the facts- just the facts ma'am!!!

They are not hard to figure out, neither one of them is in reality Hackboy like a lot of people at American Airlines hate their association, but he just bleeds how terrible his life is there. Spare me if it was so bad no one with half a brain stay 30 years as he claims. Swamt refuses to believe that his precious almighty holy AMFA could maybe be wrong, or lying to stay in power.Unions never lie to their members. In their minds only industrial unions are bad or lie.

 

[Go Figure]

I am appalled that Amfa keeps filing lawsuits and considers it a victory???? Wow. Different way of negotiations and sometime, somewhere they have to be litigated. Strap on. 2020 lookin for a agreement. Seham happy.

 

[B737 driver]

I am appalled that Amfa keeps filing lawsuits and considers it a victory???? Wow. Different way of negotiations and sometime, somewhere they have to be litigated. Strap on. 2020 lookin for a agreement. Seham happy.

But they know what they are doing. SWA isn't stupid, been having better lawyers since 1971. Herb is a Lawyer, trust me they will make Seham and company look like ambulance chasers, AMFA running videos for Air21 lawsuits.

 

[Hackman]

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I can read my language, tell me Hacky how long has American airlines been an international and ETOPS airline, so do you have American Airlines mechanics in every station before an aircraft goes on an ETOPS flights. Hackboy uses the same old attack lines. You finish your widebody check, your Crew Chief giving you internet time? Good for you.[/QUOTE]

You can read your contractual language, but that doesn't mean you comprehend it very well apparently. Your union is fighting for its SWA members, but as a weak knee'd industrial unionist simpleton, would you rather AMFA lay down like a two-bit company whore like the Reamsters did? Luckily union cowardice left out the door with the Reamsters company union.

If AMFA can get ETOPS for SWA at every station as a possibility, would that not be welcomed? It seems you would be thankful, but since it's AMFA, you degrade the action. Rather biased, but that's a given I guess with you.

I don't work Sunday, that's for low timers with 20 years.

 

[B737 driver]

I can read my language, tell me Hacky how long has American airlines been an international and ETOPS airline, so do you have American Airlines mechanics in every station before an aircraft goes on an ETOPS flights. Hackboy uses the same old attack lines. You finish your widebody check, your Crew Chief giving you internet time? Good for you.

You can read your contractual language, but that doesn't mean you comprehend it very well apparently. Your union is fighting for its SWA members, but as a weak knee'd industrial unionist simpleton, would you rather AMFA lay down like a two-bit company whore like the Reamsters did. Luckily union cowardice left out the door with the Reamsters company union.

If AMFA can get ETOPS for SWA at every station as a possibility, would that not be welcomed? It seems you would be thankful, but since it's AMFA, you degrade the action. Rather biased, but that's a given I guess with you.

I don't work Sunday, that's for low timers with 20 years.[/QUOTE]
No Retard you follow the contract and grieve it, and follow the procedures. If they get it great, but when your company can bury you with your own language, you don't make your lawyer rich by filing a lawsuit you can't win. So tell me if you were there for as long as you claim, how did you escape the layoffs, when September 11 th, happen, you were there for only maybe 14 years? What about before that? Being the history that American Airlines has had ?

 

[WeAAsles]

You can read your contractual language, but that doesn't mean you comprehend it very well apparently. Your union is fighting for its SWA members, but as a weak knee'd industrial unionist simpleton, would you rather AMFA lay down like a two-bit company whore like the Reamsters did. Luckily union cowardice left out the door with the Reamsters company union.

If AMFA can get ETOPS for SWA at every station as a possibility, would that not be welcomed? It seems you would be thankful, but since it's AMFA, you degrade the action. Rather biased, but that's a given I guess with you.

I don't work Sunday, that's for low timers with 20 years.

No Retard you follow the contract and grieve it, and follow the procedures. If they get it great, but when your company can bury you with your own language, you don't make your lawyer rich by filing a lawsuit you can't win. So tell me if you were there for as long as you claim, how did you escape the layoffs, when September 11 th, happen, you were there for only maybe 14 years? What about before that? Being the history that American Airlines has had ?[/QUOTE]

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Again with the fighting word. C’mon man this guy can’t be serious? He has to be joking?

You don’t “””FIGHT””” against the fact you have no language to fight over. You “””NEGOTIATE””” and prove a case that the work is better off staying in house and keeping the quality control. That keeping the work in house would be worth any added costs against using someone else instead.

You certainly don’t threaten to file frivolous and ridiculous Lawsuits that actually you can’t even write language to claim you have a case at all.

Yes it’s been over 5 years I understand. But you don’t antagonize the Company to try and gain work that you are NOT legally entitled to perform.

I guess some Airline Mechanics out there are just lunk heads though who think threats and intimidation is how you make friends and influence people?

NOT!!!!!

 

[B737 driver]

No Retard you follow the contract and grieve it, and follow the procedures. If they get it great, but when your company can bury you with your own language, you don't make your lawyer rich by filing a lawsuit you can't win. So tell me if you were there for as long as you claim, how did you escape the layoffs, when September 11 th, happen, you were there for only maybe 14 years? What about before that? Being the history that American Airlines has had ?

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Again with the fighting word. C’mon man this guy can’t be serious? He has to be joking?

You don’t “””FIGHT””” against the fact you have no language to fight over. You “””NEGOTIATE””” and prove a case that the work is better off staying in house and keeping the quality control. That keeping the work in house would be worth any added costs against using someone else instead.

You certainly don’t threaten to file frivolous and ridiculous Lawsuits that actually you can’t even write language to claim you have a case at all.

Yes it’s been over 5 years I understand. But you don’t antagonize the Company to try and gain work that you are NOT legally entitled to perform.

I guess some Airline Mechanics out there are just lunk heads though who think threats and intimidation is how you make friends and influence people?

NOT!!!!![/QUOTE]
Amen Weezz couldn't,said it better myself, he's about as dumb as a rock.

 

[Hackman]

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Again with the fighting word. C’mon man this guy can’t be serious? He has to be joking?

You don’t “””FIGHT””” against the fact you have no language to fight over. You “””NEGOTIATE””” and prove a case that the work is better off staying in house and keeping the quality control. That keeping the work in house would be worth any added costs against using someone else instead.

You certainly don’t threaten to file frivolous and ridiculous Lawsuits that actually you can’t even write language to claim you have a case at all.

Yes it’s been over 5 years I understand. But you don’t antagonize the Company to try and gain work that you are NOT legally entitled to perform.

I guess some Airline Mechanics out there are just lunk heads though who think threats and intimidation is how you make friends and influence people?

NOT!!!!!

Amen Weezz couldn't,said it better myself, he's about as dumb as a rock.[/QUOTE]
No Retard you follow the contract and grieve it, and follow the procedures. If they get it great, but when your company can bury you with your own language, you don't make your lawyer rich by filing a lawsuit you can't win. So tell me if you were there for as long as you claim, how did you escape the layoffs, when September 11 th, happen, you were there for only maybe 14 years? What about before that? Being the history that American Airlines has had ?[/QUOTE]
Nut Driver, you and your pet ramper (who is hiding in the woods barking) are both experts, which is comedy at its finest. You, who is supposedly out at some remote line station and apparently have little union contact (my ALR is a no show etc) and Dippy Dave who is a TWu chunker and not involved at all, except in his vacant mind. Knowing these facts, you two are adamant AMFA failed to follow the contract, has no language, doesn't have a grievance on file, lawsuit has no merit, and the same lawyer fee bashing. I guess we will see who wins, desperately clueless uninformed idiots, or the union with a professional labor attorney. I'll take the latter.

Then like a ignorant moron, you go off in the weeds about how I somehow avoided layoffs after 9/11, when you don't know me at all. I guess you are really stupid, or are fishing for something like you did previously.

I guess you and Dippy Dave can sit and spin. Lotsa luck.

 

[B737 driver]

Amen Weezz couldn't,said it better myself, he's about as dumb as a rock.

No Retard you follow the contract and grieve it, and follow the procedures. If they get it great, but when your company can bury you with your own language, you don't make your lawyer rich by filing a lawsuit you can't win. So tell me if you were there for as long as you claim, how did you escape the layoffs, when September 11 th, happen, you were there for only maybe 14 years? What about before that? Being the history that American Airlines has had ?[/QUOTE]
Nut Driver, you and your pet ramper (who is hiding in the woods barking) are both experts, which is comedy at its finest. You, who is supposedly out at some remote line station and apparently have little union contact (my ALR is a no show etc) and Dippy Dave who is a TWu chunker and not involved at all, except in his vacant mind. Knowing these facts, you two are adamant AMFA failed to follow the contract, has no language, doesn't have a grievance on file, lawsuit has no merit, and the same lawyer fee bashing. I guess we will see who wins, desperately clueless uninformed idiots, or the union with a professional labor attorney. I'll take the latter.

Then like a ignorant moron, you go off in the weeds about how I somehow avoided layoffs after 9/11, when you don't know me at all. I guess you are really stupid, or are fishing for something like you did previously.

I guess you and Dippy Dave can sit and spin. Lotsa luck.[/QUOTE]
Hey you can file a lawsuit anytime, but obviously AMFA didn't follow grievance procedures which SWA sighted in the company email. I was right about the Arbitrator lawsuit , and I am right about this.A lawyer who doesn't care will take your money in a heart beat. Plus I have friends of mine that are good attorneys that say in labor and business law if contract language does not specifically protect you, when you have never done that work before; the company can do what they want. They basically said that Federal judge will wipe his or her but with your lawsuit, and tell you to have a nice day. On your service at American , sounds like a miracle to make it, almost 30 years. Because I know people that got hired in the Airline industry in say 1988, when the gulf war came in 1991, that was a huge layoff time, and with all the Eastern guys on the street A&Ps were a dime a dozen. I got laid off from Midway in 1991, luckily I got with SWA 18 months later. So good luck with your attacks.

 

[Hackman]

retards at the negotiating table

you dipshit

Hackman is a brain damage retard.

If your a retard

chickenchit puke punk

In the meantime though, F off

You ARE a wuss man.

attack dog Hackboy

nothing more than a wuss

ineffective juvenile name calling and attacks?

if he had an intelligent answer

You’re not very interesting or intelligent anyway.

smarter than AMFA

stupid

really dumb

Hey stupid

dumb mutt?

not very bright

little whiny girl

is just an asshole

stupid sheep.

you guys so dumb

stupid.

sheep.

same old attack lines.

Did that moron

attack dog

mad retard

half a brain

Retard

dumb as a rock

Hey you can file a lawsuit anytime, but obviously AMFA didn't follow grievance procedures which SWA sighted in the company email. I was right about the Arbitrator lawsuit , and I am right about this.A lawyer who doesn't care will take your money in a heart beat. Plus I have friends of mine that are good attorneys that say in labor and business law if contract language does not specifically protect you, when you have never done that work before; the company can do what they want. They basically said that Federal judge will wipe his or her but with your lawsuit, and tell you to have a nice day. On your service at American , sounds like a miracle to make it, almost 30 years. Because I know people that got hired in the Airline industry in say 1988, when the gulf war came in 1991, that was a huge layoff time, and with all the Eastern guys on the street A&Ps were a dime a dozen. I got laid off from Midway in 1991, luckily I got with SWA 18 months later. So good luck with your attacks.[/QUOTE]
For comedic educational entertainment purposes, and to show the hypocrisy of all the colorful nasty names of Nut Driver and his pet ramper Dippy Dave have used. I wanted to highlight this post of the supposed "highly educated" Reamster mouth piece who degrades all who disagree, including his union representation and attorneys.

"which SWA sighted in the company email." I would think omnipotent Nut Driver would have used "cited" as a educated "4 year degree" Reamster contractual expert and mouth piece? I guess not.

Now is that a "half a brain", a "brain damage retard", or "dumb as a rock" statement buy the ND ?

I thought it was telling and rather funny being that we have a "contractual expert" who ripped AMFA apart for fighting for ETOPS.

You decide.

 

[B737 driver]

Hey you can file a lawsuit anytime, but obviously AMFA didn't follow grievance procedures which SWA sighted in the company email. I was right about the Arbitrator lawsuit , and I am right about this.A lawyer who doesn't care will take your money in a heart beat. Plus I have friends of mine that are good attorneys that say in labor and business law if contract language does not specifically protect you, when you have never done that work before; the company can do what they want. They basically said that Federal judge will wipe his or her but with your lawsuit, and tell you to have a nice day. On your service at American , sounds like a miracle to make it, almost 30 years. Because I know people that got hired in the Airline industry in say 1988, when the gulf war came in 1991, that was a huge layoff time, and with all the Eastern guys on the street A&Ps were a dime a dozen. I got laid off from Midway in 1991, luckily I got with SWA 18 months later. So good luck with your attacks.

For comedic educational entertainment purposes, and to show the hypocrisy of all the colorful nasty names of Nut Driver and his pet ramper Dippy Dave have used. I wanted to highlight this post of the supposed "highly educated" Reamster mouth piece who degrades all who disagree, including his union representation and attorneys.

"which SWA sighted in the company email." I would think omnipotent Nut Driver would have used "cited" as a educated "4 year degree" Reamster contractual expert and mouth piece? I guess not.

Now is that a "half a brain", a "brain damage retard", or "dumb as a rock" statement buy the ND ?

I thought it was telling and rather funny being that we have a "contractual expert" who ripped AMFA apart for fighting for ETOPS.

You decide.[/QUOTE]
Fighting for ETOPS is fine wasting money on a Lawsuit you can't win, is a waste of time, and waste of resources. I personally think Hackman you are a fake, just my opinion.Why because you are nothing but an attack dog, that does the same boring tattics Why has AMFA filed a Federal lawsuit, simple tail wag the dog. If you know you are running out of excuses to produce a contract you have road shows, and file lawsuits to keep your membership thinking you are doing something.Isn't this the same tattics that over and over on the American board that you accuse the TWU/ IAM of doing: that's the real truth. So you Hackboy just try to smear people, and when you get backed into a corner with what you truly are, you attack like an internet sociopath. Go cry some more how your situation sucks.

 

[B737 driver]

Was told years ago don't dialouge with a disgruntled uninformed mad retard with chip on their shoulder that have never lead anyone or dealt with issues in reality land. They will just try to take you down to their level. Think the advice applies to Hackboy and swamt. It is what it is. Just the facts- just the facts ma'am!!!

Well you were right the little attack rats Hackcough, Swmel, and Wrenchcrowfoot guy continue their attacks on me, because I don't agree with the way AMFA runs the show here. What amazed me, is they, the one's that supposedly work here, can not grasp or just refuse to admit how much money we have lost by not coming to an agreement. If your company just continues with their business plan regardless of us. They have all the groups they need to make SWA operate. If they were really afraid of us, or worried what we would do they would've settled a long time ago. So we sit in our own delusions of full retro, even if that is another two years. Thoughts?

 

[sendmeupacrowsfoot]

Well you were right the little attack rats Hackcough, Swmel, and Wrenchcrowfoot guy continue their attacks on me, because I don't agree with the way AMFA runs the show here. What amazed me, is they, the one's that supposedly work here, can not grasp or just refuse to admit how much money we have lost by not coming to an agreement. If your company just continues with their business plan regardless of us. They have all the groups they need to make SWA operate. If they were really afraid of us, or worried what we would do they would've settled a long time ago. So we sit in our own delusions of full retro, even if that is another two years. Thoughts?

You call what I said to you on the AA forum an attack? That was just a friendly reminder that they don't want you on their forum whining about your contract woes. They have contract troubles of their own.

 

[Hackman]

For comedic educational entertainment purposes, and to show the hypocrisy of all the colorful nasty names of Nut Driver and his pet ramper Dippy Dave have used. I wanted to highlight this post of the supposed "highly educated" Reamster mouth piece who degrades all who disagree, including his union representation and attorneys.

"which SWA sighted in the company email." I would think omnipotent Nut Driver would have used "cited" as a educated "4 year degree" Reamster contractual expert and mouth piece? I guess not.

Now is that a "half a brain", a "brain damage retard", or "dumb as a rock" statement buy the ND ?

I thought it was telling and rather funny being that we have a "contractual expert" who ripped AMFA apart for fighting for ETOPS.

You decide.

Fighting for ETOPS is fine wasting money on a Lawsuit you can't win, is a waste of time, and waste of resources. I personally think Hackman you are a fake, just my opinion.Why because you are nothing but an attack dog, that does the same boring tattics Why has AMFA filed a Federal lawsuit, simple tail wag the dog. If you know you are running out of excuses to produce a contract you have road shows, and file lawsuits to keep your membership thinking you are doing something.Isn't this the same tattics that over and over on the American board that you accuse the TWU/ IAM of doing: that's the real truth. So you Hackboy just try to smear people, and when you get backed into a corner with what you truly are, you attack like an internet sociopath. Go cry some more how your situation sucks.[/QUOTE]

"The same boring "tattics" What is a tattic? A tic-tac??? Are you sure you have a degree? (diploma mill I surmise) Anyway, when you can "back me in a corner" I'll give you a $100, since it seems all you care about is your money, who is spending money, or when you get your hands on another dollar. It's kinda demented and sick, as with 24 years under a decent SWA contract you should be doing well. We all like to have money, I shutter to think what would happen if your ever had to live under a BK contract for 15 years like we (13 years with 17.5% pay cut at AA) had. Better get a mop and bucket to clean up the Nut Driver mess on Reamster aisle 5.

In addition, what do you mean that I'm a "fake"? A fake what? I guess I don't get that one. But I don't really care, as I have nothing to prove to anyone. I think you are real though, a real company plant and Reamster company man sent to undermine AMFA. Your not doing a real good job, as you seem to be sliding off the rails.

I am sure the SWA AMFA AMTs are glad a money-grubbing Reamster sniveler like yourself is out and not able to sell out anymore members with weak and crooked company unionism that the Reamsters have had for years.