WN Mechanics seek mediation

[B737 driver]

And with your threats of voting something stupid in just to get back at the SWA guys is why you don't see a vote right now. Boy, you two answered that one on your own didn't you? You should have never let that one out trannies. The truth finally hits, great job WN...

I never said voting something in to get back at SWA, where did you get that, because of saying the Airtran guys, what a detective you are.

 

[B737 driver]

You are so off base it is pathetic. There is no "if you are a nego member you have to have 50%" C'mon man! Plus you say two locals? C'mon man. Where are you from? Where do you get this crap? You are not kidding YOU NEED to do some more research. Like I have told you time and time again, make the move Driver, start the process for the removal of your ALR or just shut the "F" up.

Per shut The F up, get a clue per AM FA constitution if you are in current negotiations , and Cramer is a negotiating team member, you need 50% of the local membership to sign a petition to remove the ALR, durring active negotiations, which we will be until it is settled or empass, no more negotiations. The 25% rule is when you are not in negotiations. So with that threshold we couldn't remove him, and he knows it.

 

[B737 driver]

And with your threats of voting something stupid in just to get back at the SWA guys is why you don't see a vote right now. Boy, you two answered that one on your own didn't you? You should have never let that one out trannies. The truth finally hits, great job WN...

Well all I know is I got 19 more years to ride the SWA bus, so leave with 43 years thats pretty good, looks like day shift forever, good luck snowflake detectives .

 

[Hackman]

Maybe you better put me on ignore or call Hackman for backup, I might be a management plant, or a Teamster plant, or a company spy, like with the cameras, you just never know. Or I could be a SWA employee tired of AMFA excuses. Who do you like I should call Herb, or Gary, good luck snowflake, you better close the thread .

Hey there's the Reamster sniveler we all know and love, Swa and WN don't need my help to make you look like a dolt, you do a good job all by yourself. If you can't get rid of a lowly ALR that you seem to dislike so vehemently, how are you going to get the Reamsters back? It's seems your game is somewhat weak, might need to work on that, get some Reamster cards signed might be a good start. As I have stated to you before, it's a good thing your not over at AA with 14+ years of record setting TWu concessions, we would have to park you in a corner with your binkey and a GI Joe doll. Poor thing.

 

[B737 driver]

Hey there's the Reamster sniveler we all know and love, Swa and WN don't need my help to make you look like a dolt, you do a good job all by yourself. If you can't get rid of a lowly ALR that you seem to dislike so vehemently, how are you going to get the Reamsters back? It's seems your game is somewhat weak, might need to work on that, get some Reamster cards signed might be a good start. As I have stated to you before, it's a good thing your not over at AA with 14+ years of record setting TWu concessions, we would have to park you in a corner with your binkey and a GI Joe doll. Poor thing.

Must say I missed you, you guys get your AMFA cards yet, you guys might have better luck with Parker, the guys on your thread tell me how it can't be done to get them in there. Should be a piece of cake , you can call AMFA national director Brett, he can help you guys out. You shouldn't have to worry about that bad TWU/-IAM any more.

 

[Hackman]

Must say I missed you, you guys get your AMFA cards yet, you guys might have better luck with Parker, the guys on your thread tell me how it can't be done to get them in there. Should be a piece of cake , you can call AMFA national director Brett, he can help you guys out. You shouldn't have to worry about that bad TWU/-IAM any more.

Aw, warm fuzzies. We have had them signed twice at AA with AMFA, but when your fighting a massive corporation that wants the TWu in place, (see 14 years of concessions, and more before that in 1983, and 1995) the corrupt NMB, the TWu and the AFl-Cio, and Reamsters fake AA card drive the last time, not very easy. See AA is about triple the size of SWA, so it's a major undertaking. But explaining it to a simpleton like yourself is really a mute point, and it seems like your late in the game here. I hope you get your money soon, it seems that would make you stop sniveling about waiting a paltry 5 years.

 

[B737 driver]

Aw, warm fuzzies. We have had them signed twice at AA with AMFA, but when your fighting a massive corporation that wants the TWu in place, (see 14 years of concessions, and more before that in 1983, and 1995) the corrupt NMB, the TWu and the AFl-Cio, and Reamsters fake AA card drive the last time, not very easy. See AA is about triple the size of SWA, so it's a major undertaking. But explaining it to a simpleton like yourself is really a mute point, and it seems like your late in the game here. I hope you get your money soon, it seems that would make you stop sniveling about waiting a paltry 5 years.

Sounds like you need to try again, if more people are fed up especially with hangars being built in Brazil. If you guys get AMFA not much will change if you have the same people running the show. We are beyond five years, and now basically six or more without a T/ A to consider. You know in your career there are to many variables that can happen waiting that long. We not just me want to see for ourselves and decide for ourselves if this offer is worth it or not. If it's not then shoot it down and fix what is wrong with it. We don't need fake dog and pony road shows telling us why we are to stupid to vote on something. According to people like yourselves that sounds like something the Teamsters would do. Then last year you do surveys and you won't release the results of the survey, sounds like some more Teamsters/ IAM/ TWU B.S. to me, but this is transparent AMFA. Tell me Hackman our your guys Union meetings at American Airlines structured if you guys have multiple meetings the membership can only vote in one meeting on union business , aren't you disenfranchising the membership that show up to those other meetings? But how can that industrial union stuff happen at AMFA?

 

[B737 driver]

Sounds like you need to try again, if more people are fed up especially with hangars being built in Brazil. If you guys get AMFA not much will change if you have the same people running the show. We are beyond five years, and now basically six or more without a T/ A to consider. You know in your career there are to many variables that can happen waiting that long. We not just me want to see for ourselves and decide for ourselves if this offer is worth it or not. If it's not then shoot it down and fix what is wrong with it. We don't need fake dog and pony road shows telling us why we are to stupid to vote on something. According to people like yourselves that sounds like something the Teamsters would do. Then last year you do surveys and you won't release the results of the survey, sounds like some more Teamsters/ IAM/ TWU B.S. to me, but this is transparent AMFA. Tell me Hackman our your guys Union meetings at American Airlines structured if you guys have multiple meetings the membership can only vote in one meeting on union business , aren't you disenfranchising the membership that show up to those other meetings? But how can that industrial union stuff happen at AMFA?

I am shocked no Answers to the hard questions, hope you guys at American get what you want.

 

[I'll have another]

Damn, the squirt called out dogs last night and I missed it.

 

[I'll have another]

Sounds like you need to try again, if more people are fed up especially with hangars being built in Brazil. If you guys get AMFA not much will change if you have the same people running the show. We are beyond five years, and now basically six or more without a T/ A to consider. You know in your career there are to many variables that can happen waiting that long. We not just me want to see for ourselves and decide for ourselves if this offer is worth it or not. If it's not then shoot it down and fix what is wrong with it. We don't need fake dog and pony road shows telling us why we are to stupid to vote on something. According to people like yourselves that sounds like something the Teamsters would do. Then last year you do surveys and you won't release the results of the survey, sounds like some more Teamsters/ IAM/ TWU B.S. to me, but this is transparent AMFA. Tell me Hackman our your guys Union meetings at American Airlines structured if you guys have multiple meetings the membership can only vote in one meeting on union business , aren't you disenfranchising the membership that show up to those other meetings? But how can that industrial union stuff happen at AMFA?

Amfa will never be at aa. You know when somebody is defeated when you get a libtard history lesson. The bottom line is the majority over there rejected amfa. Dead people and retired people were on the seniority list is bs. The majority simply rejected amfa.

 

[swamt]

Hey there's the Reamster sniveler we all know and love, Swa and WN don't need my help to make you look like a dolt, you do a good job all by yourself. If you can't get rid of a lowly ALR that you seem to dislike so vehemently, how are you going to get the Reamsters back? It's seems your game is somewhat weak, might need to work on that, get some Reamster cards signed might be a good start. As I have stated to you before, it's a good thing your not over at AA with 14+ years of record setting TWu concessions, we would have to park you in a corner with your binkey and a GI Joe doll. Poor thing.

At least he admitted how the other industrial unions work. And they still will not make the move to start the process to remove their ALR. Just prove they are here to be mouths for the company, stir up the membership etc...
I tried taking him off ignore, but guess I was expecting too much. It is clear that they are here to complain about everything and not do anything about it or get involved. Typical lazy union members that have nothing to do with the union until contract has been in nego's for 5 years and 1 month at not quite 2 weeks. No where near where he claims it is. I will go back to the peace and quiet.
Personally, I don't think they would of gotten 10 or 15% of the membership to sign on with the removal, but not sure. We do hear hear rumblings about him but nothing about removing him until these two clowns showed up here and late in the ballgame at that.
Simple fact is, when the company is ready to get serious and move, that's when we will get something to look at, until then nadda.

 

[B737 driver]

Amfa will never be at aa. You know when somebody is defeated when you get a libtard history lesson. The bottom line is the majority over there rejected amfa. Dead people and retired people were on the seniority list is bs. The majority simply rejected amfa.

But we are the enemy Teamsters lovers.I see the company is taking a $100 million dollar hit in 3rd quarter maybe more. Swamt wonders if the company will use this for a tool. I said that's why you don't wait forever to get a contract done. However the mechanics negotiating our contract are smarter than the company, and we the membership are too stupid to read and vote.

 

[swamt]

Aw, warm fuzzies. We have had them signed twice at AA with AMFA, but when your fighting a massive corporation that wants the TWu in place, (see 14 years of concessions, and more before that in 1983, and 1995) the corrupt NMB, the TWu and the AFl-Cio, and Reamsters fake AA card drive the last time, not very easy. See AA is about triple the size of SWA, so it's a major undertaking. But explaining it to a simpleton like yourself is really a mute point, and it seems like your late in the game here. I hope you get your money soon, it seems that would make you stop sniveling about waiting a paltry 5 years.

They have no clue what the real history of AMFA is. Even much less what has happened with AMFA at AA over the years.
We will get a better idea after the RS how the membership really feels. Unless we get some new news or a different option to take pretty sure we won't see anything this year at all. We will get a better feel of the company's directions after we meet again as they are (possibly) done with the FMT's and we are the last and final group. I believe in Feb. they start back up nego's with some of our other groups for new rounds of nego's.

 

[B737 driver]

They have no clue what the real history of AMFA is. Even much less what has happened with AMFA at AA over the years.
We will get a better idea after the RS how the membership really feels. Unless we get some new news or a different option to take pretty sure we won't see anything this year at all. We will get a better feel of the company's directions after we meet again as they are (possibly) done with the FMT's and we are the last and final group. I believe in Feb. they start back up nego's with some of our other groups for new rounds of nego's.

Yeah right keep dreaming , I just wait for you guys to turn on each other. I never pretended to know the history of American, what makes you an expert Swamt, you or me never worked for them. I hope Swa has not been the only airline you worked for, might explain your rose colored glasses.

 

[I'll have another]

Yeah right keep dreaming , I just wait for you guys to turn on each other. I never pretended to know the history of American, what makes you an expert Swamt, you or me never worked for them. I hope Swa has not been the only airline you worked for, might explain your rose colored glasses.

30 years ago an old mechanic told me to stay clear of aa. He said it was a nightmare with union politics and disgruntled employees. I see nothing has changed. He worked two years and quit. Glad I took his advise