Oh so they use a middle man to get around it. Gotcha!! As for the money I get paid by my company I earn it and then add wealth to the company so they can afford to pay me and prosper. You may want to read the founding fathers writings to get a better handle on this democracy thing and put down Karl Marx's diary.
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Oh so they use a middle man to get around it. Gotcha!! As for the money I get paid by my company I earn it and then add wealth to the company so they can afford to pay me and prosper. You may want to read the founding fathers writings to get a better handle on this democracy thing and put down Karl Marx's diary.
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Your are so backwards its unreal.
But since your a typical right winger, you still avoided everything poised to you.
Every penny a union spends of dues money is reported to the government and available online, cant say the same about a company.
And under the LMDRA, its against the law for dues money to be given to a party or candidate.
I guess you cant understand the word V O L U N T A R Y contributions from the members that go to a PAC which is not administered by the Union Headquarters, but people appointed to run it.
See companies can do as they please with their money, yet unions cant.
But be like every other hater, ignore the facts and the laws.
And the great thing about this country that is is legal for people to want to join a union and collective bargain, see NLRA and RLA.
But since your a typical right winger, you still avoided everything poised to you.
Every penny a union spends of dues money is reported to the government and available online, cant say the same about a company.
And under the LMDRA, its against the law for dues money to be given to a party or candidate.
I guess you cant understand the word V O L U N T A R Y contributions from the members that go to a PAC which is not administered by the Union Headquarters, but people appointed to run it.
See companies can do as they please with their money, yet unions cant.
But be like every other hater, ignore the facts and the laws.
And the great thing about this country that is is legal for people to want to join a union and collective bargain, see NLRA and RLA.
No, you obviously do not:
The Use Of Union Dues For Political Purposes:
A Legal Analysis
Summary
Under union shop agreements, labor unions must establish strict safeguards and
procedures for ensuring that non-members’ dues are not used to support certain
political and ideological activities that are outside the scope of normal collective
bargaining activities. The “union shop” or “agency shop” agreement essentially
provides that employees do not have to join the union, but must support the union in
order to retain employment by paying dues to defray the costs of collective
bargaining, contract administration, and grievance matters.
In a line of decisions, the Supreme Court has addressed this issue and has
concluded that compulsory union dues of non-members may not be used for political
and ideological activities that are outside the scope of the unions’ collective
bargaining and labor-management duties when non-members object to such use.
Seven Supreme Court decisions have held that union dues exacted from dissenting
non-members may not to be used for political and ideological purposes and must be
expeditiously refunded to dissenting non-members according to proper procedural
safeguards: (1) International Association of Machinists v. Street, 367 U.S. 740
(1961); (2) Railway Clerks v. Allen, 373 U.S. 113 (1963); (3) Abood v. District
Board of Education, 431 U.S. 209 (1977); (4) Ellis v. Brotherhood of Railway
Clerks, 466 U.S. 435 (1984); (5) Chicago Teachers Union v. Hudson, 475 U.S. 292
(1986); (6) Communications Workers of America v. Beck, 487 U.S. 735 (1988); and
Lehnert v. Ferris Faculty Association, 500 U.S. 507 (1991).
source
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The Machinists Non-Partisan Political League
is the political arm of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. It was created in 1947 to allow IAM members to gather individual contributions, coordinate political activity, and elect candidates who support IAM members and their families.
Candidates we support know that the MNPL stands for economic justice, security in the workplace and equality for every member. They do not take us for granted.
The MNPL scrutinizes each candidate thoroughly. We ask tough questions such as their positions on trade, labor law reform, economic conversion, transportation policies, and enhancement of the U.S. manufacturing base.
is the political arm of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Workers. It was created in 1947 to allow IAM members to gather individual contributions, coordinate political activity, and elect candidates who support IAM members and their families.
Candidates we support know that the MNPL stands for economic justice, security in the workplace and equality for every member. They do not take us for granted.
The MNPL scrutinizes each candidate thoroughly. We ask tough questions such as their positions on trade, labor law reform, economic conversion, transportation policies, and enhancement of the U.S. manufacturing base.
I don't want my cable or internet service provider, or laundry detergent maker, or (i think you get my point)...to contribute to political campaigns, but they do...with no limit.
I personally don't care what my cable guy or soap maker does with their money.
Most cases a dues objector cites political motives for their objections....most I knew were just smacks.
There are limits too.
Exactly.
I have very little control over who holds my mortgage, yet the company that holds it donates a portion of my hard earned mortgage payment to people/causes that I do not like or want. Thanks to the Citizens United SCOTUS case, I can do nothing to stop them from doing just that.
Kev3188
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Uh, that is *exactly* what Walker is looking to do.
Funny, I got one that explained everything too!
"Joe gets up at 6 a.m. and fills his coffeepot with water to prepare his morning coffee. The water is clean and good because some tree-hugging liberal fought for minimum water-quality standards. With his first swallow of water, he takes his daily medication. His medications are safe to take because some stupid commie liberal fought to ensure their safety and that they work as advertised. All but $10 of his medications are paid for by his employer's medical plan because some liberal union workers fought their employers for paid medical insurance - now Joe gets it too. He prepares his morning breakfast, bacon and eggs. Joe's bacon is safe to eat because some girly-man liberal fought for laws to regulate the meat packing industry. In the morning shower, Joe reaches for his shampoo. His bottle is properly labeled with each ingredient and its amount in the total contents because some crybaby liberal fought for his right to know what he was putting on his body and how much it contained.
Joe dresses, walks outside and takes a deep breath. The air he breathes is clean because some environmentalist wacko liberal fought for the laws to stop industries from polluting our air. He walks to the subway station for his government-subsidized ride to work. It saves him considerable money in parking and transportation fees because some fancy-pants liberal fought for affordable public transportation, which gives everyone the opportunity to be a contributor.
Joe begins his work day. He has a good job with excellent pay, medical benefits, retirement, paid holidays and vacation because some lazy liberal union members fought and died for these working standards. Joe's employer pays these standards because Joe's employer doesn't want his employees to call the union. If Joe is hurt on the job or becomes unemployed, he'll get a worker compensation or unemployment check because some stupid liberal didn't think he should lose his home because of his temporary misfortune.
It's noontime and Joe needs to make a bank deposit so he can pay some bills. Joe's deposit is federally insured by the FDIC because some godless liberal wanted to protect Joe's money from unscrupulous bankers who ruined the banking system before the Great Depression. Joe has to pay his Fannie Mae-underwritten mortgage and his below-market federal student loan because some elitist liberal decided that Joe and the government would be better off if he was educated and earned more money over his lifetime. Joe is home from work.
He plans to visit his father this evening at his farm home in the country. He gets in his car for the drive. His car is among the safest in the world because some America-hating liberal fought for car safety standards. He arrives at his boyhood home. His was the third generation to live in the house financed by Farmers' Home Administration because bankers didn't want to make rural loans. The house didn't have electricity until some big-government liberal stuck his nose where it didn't belong and demanded rural electrification.
He is happy to see his father, who is now retired. His father lives on Social Security and a union pension because some wine-drinking, cheese-eating liberal made sure he could take care of himself so Joe wouldn't have to.
Joe gets back in his car for the ride home, and turns on a radio talk show. The radio host keeps saying that liberals are bad and conservatives are good. He doesn't mention that the beloved Republicans have fought against every protection and benefit Joe enjoys throughout his day. Joe agrees: "We don't need those big-government liberals ruining our lives! After all, I'm a self-made man who believes everyone should take care of themselves, just like I have."
BTW, just for the record, I'm a taxpayer, and I don't feel "held hostage" at all by public sector workers. In fact, having paid in in a few different states, I think I get more for what I pay now than I ever did before.
Ok...I got you. Now unions are on the same playing field with corporations. I don't know if it was right before the ruling. It was favorable to the unions prior.
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