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Wrong, that would be Executive, Legislative and Judicial.

And what is wrong with people having the right to be in a union and have collective bargaining rights?

You do know people died for us to have the right to be in a union.
 
Wrong, that would be Executive, Legislative and Judicial.

And what is wrong with people having the right to be in a union and have collective bargaining rights?

You do know people died for us to have the right to be in a union.

Really?? No one is preventing union membership only the right to hold governments hostage, oh wait I mean collective bargain.
So where is the right to be in a union protected in our constitution??
 
Its in the Railway Labor Act and the National Labor Relations Act.

No one is holding anyone hostage, it takes two sides to negotiate and agree to the terms in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

And it doesnt have to be in the Constitution to afford protections to the people.

Guess you dont realize how Government works.
 
Its in the Railway Labor Act and the National Labor Relations Act.

No one is holding anyone hostage, it takes two sides to negotiate and agree to the terms in the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

And it doesnt have to be in the Constitution to afford protections to the people.

Guess you dont realize how Government works.

I know how it works and I also know how your union mentality works. More pay, less work, more benefits, less accountability...it's been played out a million times. Government unions hold the taxpayers hostage by plowing money into campaigns and get sweet heart deals in exchange. Newsflash...government is broke and can't afford the inflated wage and benefits for public employees. What's your solution?
So now explain to me how it's protected if the state of WI removes collective bargaining from public employees...
 
This email I recieved will explain everything !

Division of the human family into two distinct groups began some 12,000 years ago. Humans existed as members of small bands of nomadic hunter/gatherers. They lived on deer in the mountains during the summer and would go to the coast and live on fish and lobster in the winter.

The two most important events in all of history were the invention of beer and the invention of the wheel. The wheel was invented to get man to the beer or to bring the beer to man. These were the foundations of modern civilization and together were the catalyst for the splitting of humanity into two distinct subgroups:

1.Liberals

2.Conservatives

Once beer was discovered, it required grain and that was the beginning of agriculture. Neither the glass bottle nor aluminum can were invented yet, so while our early humans were sitting around waiting for them to be invented, they just stayed close to the brewery. That's how villages were formed.

Some men spent their days tracking and killing animals to B-B-Q at night while they were drinking beer. This was the beginning of what is known as the Conservative movement.

Other men who were weaker and less skilled at hunting learned to live off the conservatives by showing up for the nightly B-B-Q's and doing the sewing, fetching, and hair dressing. This was the beginning of the Liberal movement.

Some of these liberal men eventually evolved into women. The rest became known as girliemen.

Some noteworthy liberal achievements include the domestication of cats, the invention of group therapy, group hugs, and the concept of Democratic voting to decide how to divide the meat and beer that conservatives provided.

Over the years conservatives came to be symbolized by the largest, most powerful land animal on earth, the elephant. Liberals are symbolized by the jackass.

Liberals like imported beer (with lime added), but most prefer white wine or imported bottled water. They eat raw fish but like their beef well done. Sushi, tofu, and French food are standard liberal fare.

Another interesting evolutionary side note: most of their women have higher testosterone levels than their men. Most social workers, personal injury attorneys, journalists, dreamers in Hollywood and group therapists are liberals. Liberals invented the designated hitter rule because it wasn't fair to make the pitcher also bat.

Conservatives drink domestic beer. They eat red meat and still provide for their women. Conservatives are big-game hunters, rodeo cowboys, lumberjacks, construction workers, firemen, medical doctors, police officers, corporate executives, athletes, Marines, and generally anyone who works productively. Conservatives who own companies hire other conservatives who want to work for a living.

Liberals produce little or nothing. They like to govern the producers and decide what to do with the production. Liberals believe Europeans are more enlightened than Americans. That is why most of the liberals remained in Europe when conservatives were coming to America. They crept in after the Wild West was tamed and created a business of trying to get more for nothing.

Now liberals may rant and rave and call me names for spreading hate and divisiveness, but what they will never, ever do is dispute the underlying truth of the argument. No self-loathing liberal will ever say, "Hey you got us all wrong, we don't want to take from those who produce and share it with lazy idiots who refuse to work," because they do not see anything wrong with taking from those who create wealth and giving it to parasites. What they object to is that we complain when they rob us at the point of a gun. They are insulted that we are not happy, willing shmoos. The highest compliment a liberal idiot can bestow upon a free man of independent will is to call him a fascist, a word of whose accurate definition they have absolutely no clue. Here's what they think it means: anyone to the right of Karl Marx.
 
I know how it works and I also know how your union mentality works. More pay, less work, more benefits, less accountability...it's been played out a million times. Government unions hold the taxpayers hostage by plowing money into campaigns and get sweet heart deals in exchange. Newsflash...government is broke and can't afford the inflated wage and benefits for public employees. What's your solution?
So now explain to me how it's protected if the state of WI removes collective bargaining from public employees...
Really? Are you sure?

Seems to me I took concessions in 1992 at US to save the company, did the same in 2002, twice and once again in 2005.

So did all the unions at US, UA, AA, NW, so explain to me how that is more pay and less work when it was the exact opposite.

And it is against the law for unions to take dues money and give it to a candidate or a party.

That is what PACs are for, unlike Corporations who can give money.

Dont let the facts get in your way.
 
Really? Are you sure?

Seems to me I took concessions in 1992 at US to save the company, did the same in 2002, twice and once again in 2005.

So did all the unions at US, UA, AA, NW, so explain to me how that is more pay and less work when it was the exact opposite.

And it is against the law for unions to take dues money and give it to a candidate or a party.

That is what PACs are for, unlike Corporations who can give money.

Dont let the facts get in your way.

I'm positive. So all of the money given to the dems in past elections from unions was against the law or it never happened? Oh yeah, dues money is your escape clause. Ao where does a unions money come from? http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php
Don't let the facts get in your way.
 
Unions use PACs to give money to candidates, it is voluntary contributions from members, not dues money. Better go read the Landrum-Grifith Act.

Unions can use dues money for political education, and that all.

But you wont ever get that, cause you hate unions yet you like the money you got paid from the company, and they didnt give it to you out of the kindness of their hearts.
 

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