Why Tim Nelson is Dangerous to IAM-represented employees at United Airlines

[pjirish317]

Fantastic non answer. I asked you, I should'nt have to answer my own question. Repost the answer then. It's painfully obvious that you can not answer, or wont, and that you lack the ability to understand that "seniority" protections are NOT "scope" protections.

 

[Kev3188]

Oh and BTW senority protections are not the same as scope protections. You do understand that, right?

I honestly think they don't...

 

[jet job]

Fantastic non answer. I asked you, I should'nt have to answer my own question. Repost the answer then. It's painfully obvious that you can not answer, or wont, and that you lack the ability to understand that "seniority" protections are NOT "scope" protections.

Too lazy to go back and read for yourself. then get back on the sideline with the rest of nelsons cheerleaders.

 

[jet job]

you must be in the archives reading......................good for you .............. you may come off the sidelines when finished.

 

[cltrat]

Too lazy to go back and read for yourself. then get back on the sideline with the rest of nelsons cheerleaders.

what a fking jackass! You and that other clown come on here a do nothing but address the membership like they are a bunch of dumba@@es dodge or deflect any questions and discredit anyone that opposes your view.

Meanwhile you suck on that IAM teat, banking six figures off the backs of the members you talk down.
You are frankly....... disgusting.

 

[jet job]

what a fking jackass! You and that other clown come on here a do nothing but address the membership like they are a bunch of dumba@@es dodge or deflect any questions and discredit anyone that opposes your view.

Meanwhile you suck on that IAM teat, banking six figures off the backs of the members you talk down.
You are frankly....... disgusting.

tis tis tis getting a little short are we...........? I WANT MY RETRO

 

[pjirish317]

Actually no I was not going back to find it. I actually thought you might come up with an answer. Sadly, you did not, just throw jabs, and insult. If you couldn't answer the question because of lack of understanding, just say so. The more ovious, and most likey answer is that you can't because you lack the understanding between scope and senority protections. So you insult and deflect. Class act you are. I sincerely hope that Tim is wrong and you are not actually a district employee. But either way, you proved the point to not just me, but everybody that reads here, that you are a first class a#$ that can't answer a simple contractual question. enjoy your retro, you may need it if this T/A is voted in.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

You know whats more dangerous than Tim Nelson to the people at United? Union types on an internet message board pushing hard for a yes vote.

 

[JFK Fleet Service]

tis tis tis getting a little short are we...........? I WANT MY RETRO

Don't you mean the dues?

 

[737823]

Where did BLUTO go? He/she was always using texting lingo and Ebonics in their attacks against Tim.

Josh

 

[cltrat]

Where did BLUTO go? He/she was always using texting lingo and Ebonics in their attacks against Tim.

Josh

who knows? he's probably one of these clowns here

 

[jet job]

Too bad Nelson won't come back sends his Pom pom squad

 

[jet job]

It is very clear Tim Nelson has very little understanding regarding collective bargaining and the interests of IAM-represented employees at United Airlines.

This thread will--point by point--dismantle Nelson's positions as they relate to IAM-represented employees present condition in negotiations with United Airlines:

(1) Nelson claims that IAM District 141 is conceding "scope" protections for IAM-represented employees at United Airlines.

The truth is, IAM-represented employees at United Airlines currently possess very little scope protection. Only pre-merger United ramp employees possess scope of any kind. In fact, there are presently a little over 3,000 pre-merger UA ramp employees out of a total of 6,100 that have scope protection.

While there are 29 named stations, two have closed MKE and FLL, in which only IAM-represented ramp service employees can perform MAINLINE United flights, these stations have become over the last decade largely or partially United Express stations in which the work can be contracted out.

All other pre-merger Continental--Fleet and ASA, and pre-merger United customer service work have absolutely no scope protections.

Nelson--a US Airways ramp service employee, advocates that thousands of IAM-represented employees at United without absolutely no protection vote against protecting their jobs because he would like to see the IAM fail at United so he can personally benefit politically.

I challenge Nelson to debate me regarding any and all issues relating to job security at United Airlines. I doubt he will because he never stands up to a challenge of wits. He'd rather spend his time in the sphere of the nitwit.

Here ya go let me bring you Pom poms up to speed

 

[cltrat]

that nitwit Scophat isn't challenging anyone to anything, he's too busy dodging questions on facebook,
I don't know which one of you clowns sound worse.

 

[Tim Nelson]

that nitwit Scophat isn't challenging anyone to anything, he's too busy dodging questions on facebook,
I don't know which one of you clowns sound worse.

Socopath is most likely in one of the information meetings. Either Klemm or Bartz but what's the difference?

Over the past week, they were caught blatantly lying about the following:

1. They said res centers can't close. That's a lie. A res center can close and they can shift all the work to remote agent and give everyone a pay cut. It's in the agreement. What is more troubling is that the foreign call centers will be allowed to be alive and kicking if management chooses to shift res work to remote positions to trigger the paycuts.

2. They both said that the LOA #5 means a person can't get reduced to part time and that the company must keep a certain amount of full timers. That's a lie. LOA #5 is only an exception letter where the company can't take full advantage of the unlimited part time by scheduling back to back part time and reducing full timers. Full timers can be reduced to part time, laid off, exercise their seniority to transfer, etc. Any shift in flights or flight activity will most definitely prompt the company to put out a new station compliment. For instance, if DEN loses 30 flights, the company can say 100 FT and 10 part timers. A host of reason for displacing into part time. LOA #5 is only an exception letter.

3. Both have spoke on behalf of management when pressed with the language that allows BOS, PHL, etc to have work contracted out ASAP. Perhaps management will want the vendor to work the opening or closing shift or take over all bag running. Both Klemm and Bartz just say that management hasn't given them any intentions that they would do that.

4. New Health care cost: The company jacked up health care cost ALOT with sCO for some reason. sUA is in an enrollment right now in case TA2 gets voted down. These cost are very low. However, if TA2 passes, then see the lOA. It allows management to go back and 'reset' the contribution and waive the cap for one time only so management can catch up. The United employee is expected to pay 20% of the plan, however, due to strong contract language and caps, the United employees are paying less than 5%. TA2 will allow the company to finally bill the entire 20%. In ORD that is a difference of $501.63 for many. Hell, if you just cost out the $3.20 wage increase for topout [significantly less for all other steps] and add the health care bill, it will be a $2 pay cut for all topped out part timers, and about a wash for full timers.

However, all Klemm and Bartz say is that the health care cost isn't known until or if the special enrollment is triggered.

Folks should have full disclosure so I'm going to present a dissenting opinion and publish and video it. Folks can make up their own mind which way to vote but they should have the opportunity to hear the union leaders and the opinion of dissent. That's the American way.