Where Is Wardo?

[SkyLiner]

Well, well, well, if it is not the recently recalled flight attendant who has just been granted a transfer from LGA to STL.

You apology on the 4M for your offensive homophobic remarks there does not seem very sincere in retrospect. Someone must have forced you to write it in order to keep your membership in that forum.

Perhaps you need to be reminded of rule 32.

[post="172919"][/post]​

TWAnr, I don't think this is BC, his posts here are not laced with the down home euphamisms that we love and laugh at.

 

[s80dude]

Sorry, sending JW to crack ice or make tea is quite hilarious.

It's not evil, it's honest.

Better yet, I hope he sits S/B on IDF and gets called out for some domestic piece of crap he was party to.

Domestic is quite miserable now. God forbid I get 8 hours of sleep and a meal.

Coop

[post="172905"][/post]​

I thought JW was based at DFW and not IDF? He was DFW chair before he was in national office... unless he gets some sort of special lateral. That seems to be the way APFA works. Lanning got a lateral to IDF, Bott got Bassani a double lateral from DCA to JFK to SFO so she could be a divison rep.

How strange that these senior people get special laterals and we have others more junior involuntarily stuck at bases they were FORCED too.

 

[LiveInAHotel]

Bitter! Party of One. Your table's ready.

[post="172958"][/post]​

Bitter, part of one...

Would you like "first class" or "no class"? Oh wait I see you have already have been assigned a seat in "no class!"

 

[LiveInAHotel]

I thought JW was based at DFW and not IDF? He was DFW chair before he was in national office... unless he gets some sort of special lateral.

[post="172986"][/post]​

He was based at DFW prior to being in national office. Yes, he was granted a transfer to IDF during his time in national office. It would seem to me that this would be a violation of seniority if someone else senior to JW was trying to proffer into IDF at that time and didn't get it. Did I just open another can of worms?

 

[flydcoop]

I thought JW was based at DFW and not IDF? He was DFW chair before he was in national office... unless he gets some sort of special lateral. That seems to be the way APFA works. Lanning got a lateral to IDF, Bott got Bassani a double lateral from DCA to JFK to SFO so she could be a divison rep.

How strange that these senior people get special laterals and we have others more junior involuntarily stuck at bases they were FORCED too.

[post="172986"][/post]​

Nothing would surprise me at this point, S80 dude. I just hope that with THB's installation that the APFA can begin to FOCUS and FUNCTION.

I could punch myself in the face and get more accomplished than they have lately.

Are you in the same boat I'm in? MIA forced transfer? We are the only forced transfers left. We are depressed and cynical, we want to go home. We also know how lucky we are to have a job. I would NEVER spit in TWAs face. Perhaps that is the REAL STL/SLT experience. That, and getting to meet Peggy. If every manager was Peggy, we wouldn't be in this morass. She is the walking definition of "Pro-Active".

I try to focus on the positive. I welcome the opportunity to work with the former TWA F/A's. I worked with the TWA pilots exclusively for 8 months and I genuinely adore them (Ozark in particular!).

I find it interesting that those of us in St. Louis and those on furlough have no problem with TWA (Jim and Ed).

It's amazing what the "Fear-Factor" is capable of. I vote and I voted "NO" on the constitution changes (of the extremely small percentage that bothered to vote).

I have apparently been kicked off the 4M for my views. I can no longer access the 4m...what about you, Mikey?

You totally held your own vs. JN.

I am so serious, I don't care to have DFW/IDF decide my future.

I have met Rick McG and Marc A...I .totally respect them but we have to agree to disagree.

Coop

SLT

 

[FA Mikey]

Yea I was removed, no biggie. I have gotten Emails from a few others, who said the same thing. Seems that anyone who actively supported removing jw was removed.

 

[flydcoop]

Yea I was removed, no biggie. I have gotten Emails from a few others, who said the same thing. Seems that anyone who actively supported removing jw was removed.

[post="173985"][/post]​

Did they remove the unanimous Board of Directors as well? I swear, this is more drama than a Mexican telenovela.

It would be so ironic if we had to get the 4m forwarded to us by TWA! That would crack me up to no end...I don't think that they realize TW sees EVERYTHING on the 4m.

If they removed Frank E. that is just ridiculous. I looked forward to Frank's posts because I learned something (not to mention where to find it).

I watched him get bashed for being a "know-it-all" (and he was usually right!) THB supporter.

Just because I supported THB does not mean I do not hold her to the same standard I held JW.

I really was on "the fence" during the runoff and watched the debate twice before making my final vote.

IMO, JW was very defensive during the debate and either deflected what came his way or flat-out avoided the issue.

I just can't vote for that. I was more worried about THB's possible concessionary positions more than anything else.

I can tell you from flying out of BOS that the 30-40 year F/As are QUITE formidable. I've never seen as many nearly-ruptured forehead veins in my life.

My fav quote from JW was from an NYC rag. He couldn't accept that the DOL did not call for a new election "with the vote so close". He did not seem to have a problem with this when he "won" by 5 votes.

What a crock of "crap" (a nice term, BTW)

My second favorite quote has been that "the majority of AA F/As prefer Ward, they just did not vote" (well, I guess good-luck next time around, I voted and I am allowed to b**ch, ad nauseum.) They did not vote? What was their excuse?

How in the H*ll can you fault TWA for being focused and block-voters? It's been pointed out repeatedly that they actually bothered to vote, unlike over half of our membership.

Coop

SLT

 

[FA Mikey]

I think my favorite quote was "She was elected by a group of flight attendants who no longer work here, and this is a group that seeks to destroy the organization." Yea I see that the ones who got involved and voted are the one who are out to destroy the organization.

Had the those TWA people just stayed out of touch and not bothered to vote. Let jw and his fool patrol do there bidding. They to would be considered like the other APFA members who didn't bother to vote. Heroes for his cause.

 

[operaations]

I think my favorite quote was "She was elected by a group of flight attendants who no longer work here, and this is a group that seeks to destroy the organization." Yea I see that the ones who got involved and voted are the one who are out to destroy the organization.

Had the those TWA people just stayed out of touch and not bothered to vote. Let jw and his fool patrol do there bidding. They to would be considered like the other APFA members who didn't bother to vote. Heroes for his cause.

[post="174323"][/post]​

Back to the topic...where is ward....well I found him he is back to flying. I wonder how this turns out

 

[jsn25911]

Back to the topic...where is ward....well I found him he is back to flying. I wonder how this turns out

[post="174446"][/post]​

I read somewhere that he would go back to flying in October.

How will it turn out? That depends on if he has to change his AA uniform for one of those striped ones? I understand that there are several lawsuits that he has to personally answer to concerning illegalities. Wonder where the money will come from to represent him? Does APFA still pay the attorney fees for Ward? This will indeed be interesting.

 

[LiveInAHotel]

Back to the topic...where is ward....well I found him he is back to flying. I wonder how this turns out

[post="174446"][/post]​

operaations,

Can you tell us when he is flying, so we can meet his flight and give him a finger or two??? I just want to non-rev on one of his flights to see if he remembers how to be a flight attendant! Eevn know I doubt he does.

 

[LiveInAHotel]

Does APFA still pay the attorney fees for Ward? This will indeed be interesting.

[post="174466"][/post]​

From what I was told is he will have to pay his own attorney fees. Once out of office the APFA doesn't have to do anything for him excpet be his and our Collective Bargaining Representative.

 

[AAquila]

American Airlines' union names new president

August 30, 2004

A new president was named last week to lead the American Airlines flight attendants' union in an election so close that its outcome had been disputed since the March vote.

The union's board of directors, bowing to pressure from the Labor Department, voted to install Tommie Hutto- Blake as president of the Association of Professional Flight Attendants after she finished seven votes ahead of John Ward, who had led the union since 2000.

Ward, however, said Wednesday that he might appeal the latest ruling and seek a new election.

In March, Ward had appeared to win by five votes out of nearly 15,000 cast, but Labor Department officials ordered the counting of 16 additional ballots this month, which swung the contest to Hutto-Blake.

Earlier this month, Labor Department officials told the union it should immediately install Hutto-Blake as president for the rest of Ward's term, through March 2008, or face possible sanctions.

The union board met for three hours Wednesday at its offices near Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport and unanimously voted to install Hutto-Blake, a 34-year airline veteran and former union official who is based at New York's LaGuardia Airport. She did not immediately return calls for comment.

Ward said in an interview that the Labor Department should have called a new election instead of deciding such a close race by counting a few disputed ballots. Those ballots had been rejected in March because of questions about whether they were cast by union members in good standing.

Ward won a majority of votes from working flight attendants, but Hutto-Blake received near-unanimous support from more than 2,100 former Trans World Airlines workers who were laid off by American after its parent, AMR Corp., bought TWA out of bankruptcy in 2001.

Union bylaws allow laid-off workers to vote.

"She was elected by a group of flight attendants who no longer work here, and this is a group that seeks to destroy the organization," Ward said.

Former TWA workers have sued the union over an agreement that put them behind all American workers in seniority - guaranteeing that the TWA veterans would be laid off first.

Ward's tenure was filled with tumult. He took office after rank-and-file workers rejected a contract negotiated by union leaders. He won passage of major raises under a new deal.

However, an economic slump and the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, rocked U.S. airlines. Ward was criticized for helping win passage last year of $340 million in wage and benefit concessions designed to keep American out of bankruptcy.

 

[LiveInAHotel]

HEY JOHN WARD...