what has the association accomplished?

[ALUS78]

Is that because we contract 80% of our heavy maintenance out?

I dont know the percentages but we have a lot more everybody per aircraft than LUV

 

[ALUS78]

WeAAz, the LAA outsourcing number is a percentage of the SPEND....That can be very misleading. The bigger the spend the more outsourcing allowed.

It's still cheaper do d it WNs way

 

[WeAAsles]

I dont know the percentages but we have a lot more everybody per aircraft than LUV

All that information is right here if anyone wants to sit down with a pad and a pencil to do the comparisons.

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/default.html

 

[dfw gen]

In honor of 700...indulge me:

Are you that stupid?

Airline employees are covered by the RLA under the jurisdiction of the NMB, not the NLRA and NLRB.

Educate yourself: https://www.twu.org/nmb-certifies-twu-iam-associations-at-american-airlines/

Amazing you fix airplanes but can't grasp and comprehend such basic concepts.

Don't let the facts get in your way!


Josh

I have to admit you motivated me today. Was able to get 54 cards signed in the hgr today!

 

[WeAAsles]

Nope, but it's a separate argument from the class/craft saga.

I meant what I said.

So you’re alright with him (an outsider) telling my fellow employees that they should ignore me and that them having a Card Drive would NOT affect me?

Oh I forgot, you’re also an outsider.

Unbelievable Kev, unbelievable.

 

[WeAAsles]

I have to admit you motivated me today. Was able to get 54 cards signed in the hgr today!

YAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!! God Bless ya Son. One of ya FINALLY figured out my real agenda.

Get out!!!! GO GO GO GO. LEAVE. Please.

And don’t forget to PUMP that Go Fund Me page. This is going to be very expensive to pull off.

 

[ALUS78]

All that information is right here if anyone wants to sit down with a pad and a pencil to do the comparisons.

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/default.html

One would think that someone without a vested interest in the company wouldnt do as good a job as an employee with

 

[WeAAsles]

WeAAz, the LAA outsourcing number is a percentage of the SPEND....That can be very misleading. The bigger the spend the more outsourcing allowed.

Hey Metal thanks for still talking to me even after swamt said you shouldn’t.

I have a smidgeon of an idea how Maintenance spend works but I will admit that I find it complicated. I was informed that supposedly the numbers in that area really aren’t that far off from Delta and United taken in that context.

 

[ALUS78]

Hey Metal thanks for still talking to me even after swamt said you shouldn’t.

I have a smidgeon of an idea how Maintenance spend works but I will admit that I find it complicated. I was informed that supposedly the numbers in that area really aren’t that far off from Delta and United taken in that context.

But we were discussing LUV how far off with them?

 

[MetalMover]

Hey Metal thanks for still talking to me even after swamt said you shouldn’t.

I have a smidgeon of an idea how Maintenance spend works but I will admit that I find it complicated. I was informed that supposedly the numbers in that area really aren’t that far off from Delta and United taken in that context.

Oh, I weighed his suggestion heavily!
And about that spend percentage. It is not cut and dry like saying 60% of man hours which can be defined and tracked easily.
But when we use a % of spend, it can equate to a higher % of man hours.

 

[bigjets]

Association has successfully:

Prevented membership from a choice in representation

Divided membership into 2 camps with different needs

Collected dues.

And...........

 

[737823]

I have to admit you motivated me today. Was able to get 54 cards signed in the hgr today!

Way to go!

I think it’s likely he will eventually read this thread if he hasn’t already.

Josh

 

[Jester]

to me, this is where the union has failed me. it has been my experience that a local will back any and every crew chief...due to the simple fact that most executive board/officers are crew chiefs themselves and don't want to lose that power.

Not to hijack the thread, but I am getting that feedback from some pref hired US guys hired at AA stations. Assignments from CC's leading to favoritism, disorganization, or questionable operational coverage. On the US side if Managers regularly create a daily C.F., they will be terminated or reassigned, but to remove a 30-year CC will take an Act of Congress no matter how incompetent.

Post JCBA, I will be very curious to see what system survives with Leads vs. Crew Chiefs.

 

[MetalMover]

Not to hijack the thread, but I am getting that feedback from some pref hired US guys hired at AA stations. Assignments from CC's leading to favoritism, disorganization, or questionable operational coverage. On the US side if Managers regularly create a daily C.F., they will be terminated or reassigned, but to remove a 30-year CC will take an Act of Congress no matter how incompetent.

Post JCBA, I will be very curious to see what system survives with Leads vs. Crew Chiefs.

My understanding is CC will prevail.

Not to hijack the thread, but I am getting that feedback from some pref hired US guys hired at AA stations. Assignments from CC's leading to favoritism, disorganization, or questionable operational coverage. On the US side if Managers regularly create a daily C.F., they will be terminated or reassigned, but to remove a 30-year CC will take an Act of Congress no matter how incompetent.

Post JCBA, I will be very curious to see what system survives with Leads vs. Crew Chiefs.

Not really. Not sure about fleet, but in MX, there is the annual review/evaluation. They can be removed if all the steps are followed.

 

[B737 driver]

I dont know the percentages but we have a lot more everybody per aircraft than LUV

We have about 2000 mechanics actually working on airplanes if you remove GSE, Maintenance Control, Inspection, and instructors for 746 aircraft.