West Fa's working East routes.

I am just curious? On the East can you pick up trips and work as much as you want? Or is there a cutoff? Out West we can work unlimited hours, as long as we don't work over a 7day period. Meaning we can pick up personal trades and work a 90-120+ schedule. As a line, block holder are you limited? That would really suck on the West side. We have many senior people working 130 flight hours a month. Not kidding!! I guess there is one good thing with the West contract, unlimited flying!
Our crew scheduling usually sets the level at 90 hours per month. RSV's can pick up extra time on days off(we only get 11 days off) and that time goes above our 73 hour min. guarantee. Any DH we do is 1/2 pay. no credit. That 1/2 pay is also above guarantee. The company usaually only flies us about 45 hours per month on average(that's in CLT), so we end up sitting in base alot. It stinks for commuting rsv's, they end up sitting in hotels or crashpads(just what a 10-18 yr f/a wants to do). Our BH's get numerous chances to adjust their schedule, even right up to the night before their trip goes out.
 
Our crew scheduling usually sets the level at 90 hours per month. RSV's can pick up extra time on days off(we only get 11 days off) and that time goes above our 73 hour min. guarantee. Any DH we do is 1/2 pay. no credit. That 1/2 pay is also above guarantee. The company usaually only flies us about 45 hours per month on average(that's in CLT), so we end up sitting in base alot. It stinks for commuting rsv's, they end up sitting in hotels or crashpads(just what a 10-18 yr f/a wants to do). Our BH's get numerous chances to adjust their schedule, even right up to the night before their trip goes out.

109 you have confused me. You said it wasn't worth claiming the extra rig because you don't break guarantee, but travelpro says pnc goes above guarantee. Any rigs you claim due to a dh are also pnc. Just wanting the company to pay every cent it owes.
 
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109 you have confused me. You said it wasn't worth claiming the extra rig because you don't break guarantee, but travelpro says pnc goes above guarantee. Any rigs you claim due to a dh are also pnc. Just wanting the company to pay every cent it owes.
I just hope we negotiate unlimited flying for block/line holders, and flexibility on reserve to pick up too. Full dhead pay, guarantee for cancelled flights!! No caps, first come/serve too! Just think the money you could make on the system we have on the West.?? Getting payed extra C$$$$$ to pick up a trip on your own time!! :up: :up: :up:
 
I just hope we negotiate unlimited flying for block/line holders, and flexibility on reserve to pick up too. Full dhead pay, guarantee for cancelled flights!! No caps, first come/serve too! Just think the money you could make on the system we have on the West.?? Getting payed extra C$$$$$ to pick up a trip on your own time!! :up: :up: :up:
We would have to sit down a compare both rsv systems, to see where the advantages are. We would probably have to do this on our own time and without any AFA help. They seem to think they know what rsv's want. Most on our side are freakin idiots. They say they hear our pain, but I sure would like to make them feel my pain. Know what I mean, Verne. Over here, rsv's have no senoirity. That is crap. Have I not earned my 18 years of senoirity in the rsv system. If a trip comes to my senoirity, I should be allowed to take it. Everything at this company goes by senoirity, except rsv's picking up trips. We were actually sold down the river by our Union, including Mike Flores. He's a crafty little man. WQent from line f/a to MECP in one year. Write great journals.

109 you have confused me. You said it wasn't worth claiming the extra rig because you don't break guarantee, but travelpro says pnc goes above guarantee. Any rigs you claim due to a dh are also pnc. Just wanting the company to pay every cent it owes.
Not all trips with DH's in them have rig time. You use the rig calculator in catcrew to see if they do.
 
You need to use option 23 on all your trips with d/h. If you have a trip with d/h time in it and it does not show published with at leats 5hours for a one day or 10 for a two and so on you can almost be certain that you'll have an adjustment to claim. As for the flying...in June I was at 92 hours without putting myself on quick call or making myself available and this month I'm at LTO 60. They are flying our patooties off here in PHL compared to the fall/winter months. So what I meant about the choice is if you are very close to timing out even 2days before the end of the month hey thats two days. You should have that choice to timeout or put that time for variable minimum above your guarantee. however you want to use it. Get paid an extra hour or so or have two more days off. It should be the reserves choice. Hell if you get to that point you have obviously worked your a$$ off.
 
I am just curious? On the East can you pick up trips and work as much as you want? Or is there a cutoff? Out West we can work unlimited hours, as long as we don't work over a 7day period. Meaning we can pick up personal trades and work a 90-120+ schedule. As a line, block holder are you limited? That would really suck on the West side. We have many senior people working 130 flight hours a month. Not kidding!! I guess there is one good thing with the West contract, unlimited flying!
Yes, you can fly unlimited hours by picking up off of the ETB with legalities in mind. That's how some F/As are getting 170 hours. You can also fly as little as 40 by dropping.
 
As for the wonderful little ETB. Has anyone really taken notice of the reserve lines in PHL this month? The days off are in increments of 3days ONLY. No 4day stretches. so what kind of trips are you to p/u on the ETB now? You may get an extra 20 hours tops give or take a few hours. It's sooooo damn disgusting. While I don't agree with the idea of the ETB and how reserves on on the east have to resort to it to have any kind of normal check even THAT is limited this month. As if the 24/7 rule wasn't bad enough. No ETB transatlantic trips for any reserves this month unless they have a nice long layover. What bs.
 
As for the wonderful little ETB. Has anyone really taken notice of the reserve lines in PHL this month? The days off are in increments of 3days ONLY. No 4day stretches. so what kind of trips are you to p/u on the ETB now? You may get an extra 20 hours tops give or take a few hours. It's sooooo damn disgusting. While I don't agree with the idea of the ETB and how reserves on on the east have to resort to it to have any kind of normal check even THAT is limited this month. As if the 24/7 rule wasn't bad enough. No ETB transatlantic trips for any reserves this month unless they have a nice long layover. What bs.
It's better than DCA.
 
I'd be willing to bet that TC turns would go VERY senior in CLT. And we're talking 30 years. I know I would bid them. Hummm... 10 hour one day times 8 days equal 80 hours. Twenty two days off? SIGN ME UP!!
 
Who in their right mind would object to having a 10 hour oneday transcon turn? Hell I do 737 trips that have 13hour duty days and we're talking up,down,up,down...hello, goodbye, hello, goodbye. It's not like Usairways works you all that hard on a transcon. BOB and two drinks. Well for those that still DO an arrival bev. I love it when a f/a sits in back and says, "Ehhhh they don't need an arrival beverages as he/she has sucked down 5 diet cokes or a pot of coffee during the flight themselves". :lol: give me the 10 hour oneday anyday.
 
I love it when a f/a sits in back and says, "Ehhhh they don't need an arrival beverages as he/she has sucked down 5 diet cokes or a pot of coffee during the flight themselves". :lol: give me the 10 hour oneday anyday.

I almost peed in my pants from laughing! :lol:
I would so welcome a 10 one day. Thats means less days I have to be present for this joke called the "new" US Airways.
 
I almost peed in my pants from laughing! :lol:
I would so welcome a 10 one day. Thats means less days I have to be present for this joke called the "new" US Airways.
Never happen. Everytime I bring that up, I get" You don't want that, Scheduling will screw you. At Piedmont they screwed us". Hey that was 20 freakin years ago. and what they were on rsv- 6 months, maybe a year. Every trip at this airline is built to a pilot, except extra trips and those are usuallly pretty good. We have alot of weak d**ks here on the east side. Blind sheep, probably couldn't even sign into a hotel without someone holding their hand. We'd have to schedule somekind of training or something for those folks.
 
Blind sheep, probably couldn't even sign into a hotel without someone holding their hand. We'd have to schedule somekind of training or something for those folks.
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Are you kidding, some can't get out of a 2 gate terminal to find the hotel van itself. :rolleyes:
 
One of the popular west turn days is PHX-LAS-ORD-PHX.

Affectionately referred to as a Bermuda Triangle turn, or death triangle turn. (sucks the energy right out of you.)

12.15 duty day. credit value of 8.37 0630 report, 1840 release.

Personally, I would never do a turn day. I would rather drive to work once or twice a week. Depending on the route, a turn line can have 4 one day trips on it, or as few as 1 per week, but alternating with more trips the following weeks.

You know. It seems the furloughed fa's that have come out west are the most negative and bitter people I've worked with, or talked to. Your post I am responding to is a perfect example.
You guys wear your East uniforms, hoping not to get caught, because you think your cool? Sorry, you stick out like a sore thumb, but I guess that is your intention.

You made the choice to come out west, so stop your whining. :D
There are a few that are in the disciplinary process too. If I knew I had a recall position back east, I wouldn't sweat it either.
 
Blind sheep, probably couldn't even sign into a hotel without someone holding their hand. We'd have to schedule somekind of training or something for those folks.

Are you kidding, some can't get out of a 2 gate terminal to find the hotel van itself. :rolleyes:

This is so true. Some of our F/As can't take care of themselves- finding thier way around airports, figuring out legality, signing into hotels/ van times etc.

We need to grow up and ditch the pilots. Yes, our airline acts like a two-bit commuter airline, we don't have to. If it gets rid of the stupid people then good.
 

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