US AIRWAYS FA's approve CONTRACT

[gizmo_sc]

see link:

http://www.timesonline.com/news/local_news/us-airways-flight-attendants-approve-contract/article_be417f77-54b8-5356-a372-990f718a8db9.html

 

[Ames]

Now that you have a contract you will soon be mixing with west crews. I have a serious question for east FA's. West crews sign themselves into overnight hotels. Will east FA's have a problem with this?

I have been accused by east pilots of hating FA's simply because I stated west FO's will refuse to sign the entire crew into hotels. West crews never did this and will refuse to do so simply because it is perceived as an east tradition and we all see ourselves as capable of doing the task ourselves.

PS: I was also told you would spit in our coffee.

 

[Pi brat]

PS: I was also told you would spit in our coffee.

Really?! No one told you that, PHX told you that you shouldn't invite it.

Did your Mom ever tell you it's not always what you say, but how you say it? Here's what you said:

"Oh, yeah, you east FO's should start teaching your FA's how to sign themselves into a hotel because when they start flying with west pilots there will be no way in hell that our FO's will be doing that for them."

You don't see how condescending that is? As if our F/As couldn't do it? As a matter of fact, if I recall correctly, in Europe the CSD signed the pilots in.

Don't worry east F/As. Most west pilots I've encountered aren't the Richard this guy is. He is an angry F/O.

 

[nycbusdriver]

As a matter of fact, if I recall correctly, in Europe the CSD signed the pilots in.

Not entirely correct. During the briefing in the US, every crew member signs the company provided triple-copy "Hotel Sheet" on which little requests to the hotel can be made (and ignored about half the time, depending on the hotel.)

The CSD then takes that form and has the InFlight Office fax a copy to the hotel in Europe, or TelAviv, with the hope that the ten+ hours of "heads-up" will allow the rooms to be ready and keys distributed on arrival.

The CSD is also responsible for carrying the original Hotel Sheet to the front desk when the crew gets to the hotel, but this is sometimes delegated to a volunteer whose luggage gets off the bus first.

 

[Ames]

Really?! No one told you that, PHX told you that you shouldn't invite it.

Did your Mom ever tell you it's not always what you say, but how you say it? Here's what you said:

"Oh, yeah, you east FO's should start teaching your FA's how to sign themselves into a hotel because when they start flying with west pilots there will be no way in hell that our FO's will be doing that for them."

You don't see how condescending that is? As if our F/As couldn't do it? As a matter of fact, if I recall correctly, in Europe the CSD signed the pilots in.

Don't worry east F/As. Most west pilots I've encountered aren't the Richard this guy is. He is an angry F/O.

I will admit that I was being condescending to east pilots, not to FA's because, as I also said, I was sure that they were capable of doing so themselves and were certainly too professional than to spit in coffee.

.....speaking of "Richards"....

 

[Pi brat]

I will admit that I was being condescending to east pilots, not to FA's because, as I also said, I was sure that they were capable of doing so themselves and were certainly too professional than to spit in coffee.

.....speaking of "Richards"....

"FO's should start teaching your FA's" Oh yeah, that's not condescending to F/As(in general) at all. My mistake, of course. Amazing. Take responsibility for you your words.

I'll give my wife some lessons when she gets home and give you her feedback.

 

[ExPit]

Dear Ames -

I appreciate your concern about US East flight attendants learning how to sign ourselves in on our overnights. We're quite capable of signing in on our own, thank you very much. It was a simple courtesy in the past and will be missed. But, do not worry about us. We are adults and may even surprise you with our above average ability to sign find the front desk and the sign in sheet.

Yours truly,
ExPit

 

[jimntx]

At AA one of the f/as quite often signs all f/as in if they have a copy of the crew list with employee numbers, and it's usually whoever got to the front desk first. As ExPit said, it's a courtesy to your fellow employees. Cockpits signing in f/as and vice versa, not so much because they are usually on separate sign-in sheets at the hotel. We do not copair as US does (the company found years ago they can't fly f/as near to death if they get the same rest as cockpits); so, we may arrive at the hotel at the same time, but rarely go back out with the same cockpit the next day.

Co-pairing is one US Airways feature that I hope survives for all of us into the "new" American. I don't think it will, but hope springs eternal.

 

[BungeeJumper]

Co-pairing went out with the most recent ratified contract.

Co-pairing is one US Airways feature that I hope survives for all of us into the "new" American. I don't think it will, but hope springs eternal.

Co-Pairing went out with the contract ratified last week.

 

[jimntx]

Oh well. If the AA crew planning and scheduling is the surviving unit, get prepared. 9 1/2 hour layovers followed by 13 hour days are coming. We are supposed to get compensatory rest for over a certain amount of daily duty time, but they schedule the trips so that the long day is the last one, and you get your compensatory rest on your own time at home.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

2 US crews in europe get paid 200% for completing delayed trip today.

 

[ContUNITEus]

Wow.... you guys are even fighting about who signs in who?

Awesome...

 

[nycbusdriver]

...but they schedule the trips so that the long day is the last one, and you get your compensatory rest on your own time at home.

Funny how that coincidence happens so much.

 

[nycbusdriver]

Wow.... you guys are even fighting about who signs in who?

Awesome...

It sounds like no group at either of the airlines has any heartburn with signing the entire crew in. Except, that is, for the AWA co-pilots who are going to refuse to pay this courtesy to their co-workers. I am forever grateful that I will never have one of those jerks sharing my cockpit.

 

[Be Careful What You Wish For.]

Where is pITTbUTT with a basement postmordem and PB who were both so against a better life for US F/A's?

Oh, I forgot they are both irrelvant.

Enjoy retirement and say good bye to US - say hello to the No. 1 airline in the world! AA