US Airways Awarded Coveted 2012 MRO of the Year Award for Airline Maintenance Excellence

[SparrowHawk]

It doesn't take more than a HS diploma to be an a&p...
And you can earn double, good for you. Give yourself a pat on the back, it always takes a bigger man to #### on someone else's career. Since you've never been in the industry, you must not know that the pay isn't good. But, and I'm only speaking for myself, I enjoy aviation. None of us are here to be millionaires, (at least the smart ones aren't), because you won't make a whole lot of money in aviation. That is, unless you're one of those guys at the top, screwing the employees.

Pay hasn't been good for awhile. Frankly an A & P mech can make more money twisting wrenches at the local Audi Store. Wasn't trying to poop on anyone's career just making a point to all of the whiners and moaners that there is life outside of US and most times it pays better.

 

[HPearlyretiree]

Shows what you know! You can be electrocuted by one.

If you sit on the glass and make copies of your genitalia, the glass can break and you get to go to the ER and get a few dozen stitches, many of them in the case I'm aware of a woman wouldn't want to be stitched. That happened alot when color copiers came out.

You can be electrocuted by a lamp, a pool pump, a light switch, a fuse, your washer, your dryer, a refrigerator, an electric mower, a night light, a blender, a pencil sharpener, an extension cord, a toaster, a microwave oven, a stereo, a TV, etc, etc, etc.

You never fail to be obtuse...

 

[UPNAWAY]

Fact aviation is more outsourced than ever, fact aviation is safer than ever!
Don't let union propaganda get in the way of reality. We see the same kind and degree of (Issues) coming out of PIT & CLT as we do MCN & BFM.
They all do a very good job!

The jobs are outsourced because of the unions to begin with they have only themselves to blame and I bet most cannot even comprehend that.

 

[CallawayGolf]

Fact aviation is more outsourced than ever, fact aviation is safer than ever!
Don't let union propaganda get in the way of reality. We see the same kind and degree of (Issues) coming out of PIT & CLT as we do MCN & BFM.
They all do a very good job!

The jobs are outsourced because of the unions to begin with they have only themselves to blame and I bet most cannot even comprehend that.

Exactly. Just think that all of those outsourced jobs could come back if the union was willing to set competitive labor rates and work rules that negated any benefit that outsourcing may yield.

 

[EastUS1]

The jobs are outsourced because of the unions to begin with they have only themselves to blame and I bet most cannot even comprehend that.

Or....just perhaps....the infantile, greed-soaked, narcissistic sociopaths that have slithered their way up so many corporate ladders....simply haven't the slightest notion of themselves as being Americans, nor care even the least bit for direct oversight and quality control....just so long as it's "cheap".....

 

[EastUS1]

Exactly. Just think that all of those outsourced jobs could come back if the union was willing to set competitive labor rates and work rules that negated any benefit that outsourcing may yield.

That's sheer genius Callaway! I can't believe no one's thought of this before! I suggest that, in order to be fully competitive, and regardless of the cost of living in this country, that we all immediately have wages/benefits/etc reduced to that of the lowest possible levels of the third world!.....Starting with YOURS!

 

[Move2CLT]

have wages/benefits/etc reduced to that of the lowest possible levels of the third world!...

FYI, you're already there with LOA93.

LMAO.

 

[luvthe9]

I don't think AWA ever got one of these cudos to the east mechanics!!!! http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=96023&page=1

 

[blue collar]

...We see the same kind and degree of (Issues) coming out of PIT & CLT as we do MCN & BFM...

The jobs are outsourced because of the unions to begin with they have only themselves to blame and I bet most cannot even comprehend that.

No, we don't. PIT and CLT put out a superior product, unlike MCN and BFM. The couple of US employees that are there aren't watching the repairmen do any of the work. They're just there to check the paperwork. I see you intentionally left SAL out, it must be because even a company suck boy like yourself can see their product is garbage. I knew you and Callaway would respond the way you did. You guys have blinders on, and despise everything union.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Fact aviation is more outsourced than ever, fact aviation is safer than ever!
Don't let union propaganda get in the way of reality. We see the same kind and degree of (Issues) coming out of PIT & CLT as we do MCN & BFM.
They all do a very good job!

The jobs are outsourced because of the unions to begin with they have only themselves to blame and I bet most cannot even comprehend that.

That's only partly true. Cost in any business decision is always a top priority though NOT always THE top priority. Outsourcing is often used to speed up an operation and avoid the cost of setting up an operation to perform certain tasks. Sometimes the best way to get more capacity is to buy it. We see this with regional airlines so why not with repair?

Why use a staff of fully licensed A & P mechanics to perform simple tasks. If you do car repair would you have your top mechanic doing oil changes? Conversely it's not prudent to send complex work out of house as the liability can be an issue. US has highly skilled techs and you want them on the hardest tasks and the ones that can have the most critical effect on safety.

As I've said before outsourcing is neither Panacea nor Pandora's Box. What it is is a tool. One that allows maximum flexibility, increased productivity and lower costs for the enterprise if used correctly.

 

[700UW]

Let me explain this one more time.

A US Airways A&P has a vested interest to make sure he/she does their job to the best, as they, their loved ones, friends, and passengers will fly on it and cant be bullied by a supervisor to sign off or do something that they dont want to as they feel it wasnt safe.

At an MRO their are driven by time, if the plane doesnt meet it's ETR the MRO has a financial penalty.

US has had plenty of problems from planes back from vendors, the first Airbus ever outsourced to ST Mobile Aerospace made several emergency landings and US mechanics had to redo all the flap rigging to make the plane safe.

Another plane just came back from ST MAE and the slide girt bar latches were missing a major no go item, and the paint touch up work didnt even match.

I can go on and on and on.

Bottom line is a US employees has a vested interested, a vendor doesnt.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Bottom line is a US employees has a vested interested, a vendor doesnt.

You and I have sparred off and on here for damn near 10 years and the last line of your post was the dumbest thing I ever heard.

I sold outsourcing services (Non Aviation) for 8 years and I can tell you the vendor has a vested interest. I'll speak to my personal vested interest as the Sales Rep/Account Manager

In 1990 I was paid a base salary of $27,000 plus commissions. The MONTHLY commission on my largest account (Int pet food co) was 4% of revenue. Which for this account alone was 4% of $60,000 per month in revenue or $2,400 x 12 = $28,800 per year, PLUS a 2% President Club bonus which was another $30,000 as it was based on total revenue not just the one account.

Do you think for one second I didn't have a vested interest in that customer being happy? My job, my financial security was on the line DAILY so if you'd be so kind as to peddle that alarming little piece of Bullspit elsewhere I'd be ever so happy.

 

[700UW]

Once again, you dont work in aviation, you dont know the conditions and skill levels in an MRO and havent seen the shoddy work first hand, have you?

Lets see Valujet crash was because of a vendor's mistake, I can go on and on, until you seen it first hand you wont get the concept.

An unlicensed person doesnt care who's name is on the plane, their employer only cares about getting the plane out on time.

You cant say the same for a US Airways Mechanic.

 

[UPNAWAY]

Every A&P has his license on the line on every piece of work MRO or not.

 

[UPNAWAY]

Every A&P has his license on the line on every piece of work MRO or not.