US, AA merger could cost Charlotte
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Coming soon: Charlotte airport authority bill in Raleigh
The air may be full of merger talk, but the hot topic of an airport authority remains unresolved. Mayor Anthony Foxx told me during a recent interview the biggest problem he has with discussions to remove Charlotte Douglas International Airport from city control is that state lawmakers and unnamed business leaders have left the city out of the early discussions.
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2013/02/coming-soon-charlotte-airport.html
The air may be full of merger talk, but the hot topic of an airport authority remains unresolved. Mayor Anthony Foxx told me during a recent interview the biggest problem he has with discussions to remove Charlotte Douglas International Airport from city control is that state lawmakers and unnamed business leaders have left the city out of the early discussions.
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/blog/queen_city_agenda/2013/02/coming-soon-charlotte-airport.html
Fitch ratings is reporting that the new airline will maintain 6 hubs including CLT, then reports later in the article that CLT will lose all hub ops..http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/news/2013/02/13/report-mia-may-fare-well-in-amr-us.html
Either I am reading the article wrong, or Fitch has some bad info.... Either way I wish all the folks at US and AA good luck and I hope for the best for you all.....
Either I am reading the article wrong, or Fitch has some bad info.... Either way I wish all the folks at US and AA good luck and I hope for the best for you all.....
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I'm a little curious at the assertion that Charlotte would have a signigicant net reduction in flights (we are bound to gain flights to cities such as Oklahoma City and maybe some other Midwestern and Gulf destinations...).
I have seen some people post that Americans high cost wont work with Charlotte. My question is... With Charlotte being above and beyond the cheapest airport to operate a large hub, It tells me that Charlotte would continue to be a crown jewel in a combined network. Obviously it is likely we could lose some long haul service (unless AMR has a lot of metal to play with) but other than that, I don't see us losing any net service.
I also don't buy the theory that Chicago and Dallas will steal East/West flows from Charlotte. I actually think Charlotte's East/west flow will grow in a combined entity (Again... There is NO WAY Charlotte wont get service to Oklahoma City and I'm sure some western routes would also be added), For every route that is better serviced via Dallas or Chicago, there is a route served better via Charlotte
As far as Philadelphia goes, I also see Philadelphia being "the" airport of the North. I see PHL being much more prominent than JFK/LGA. There is no way JFK could take even a fraction of what Philadelphia handles. I think Philadelphia would not lose any services to JFK. I think PHL will continue to get international destinations that JFK doesn't have. EL AL is a Star Alliance member. Why fight for the Tel Aviv market, for example, with United who has the Massive Newark hub and El Al who has a hub in Tel Aviv and Delta flyng JFK-Tel Aviv (If I'm not mistaken, which I could be) when you have a massive O&D market all to yourself, a huge 400 flight hub, more pricing power with O&D traffic VS. a Focus City with a lot of competition...
I see Charlotte, Dallas, Miami, and Philadelphia being the crown jewels of the new American. I wonder what role Tempe has in mind for Chicago. I know they don't like competition.
I have seen some people post that Americans high cost wont work with Charlotte. My question is... With Charlotte being above and beyond the cheapest airport to operate a large hub, It tells me that Charlotte would continue to be a crown jewel in a combined network. Obviously it is likely we could lose some long haul service (unless AMR has a lot of metal to play with) but other than that, I don't see us losing any net service.
I also don't buy the theory that Chicago and Dallas will steal East/West flows from Charlotte. I actually think Charlotte's East/west flow will grow in a combined entity (Again... There is NO WAY Charlotte wont get service to Oklahoma City and I'm sure some western routes would also be added), For every route that is better serviced via Dallas or Chicago, there is a route served better via Charlotte
As far as Philadelphia goes, I also see Philadelphia being "the" airport of the North. I see PHL being much more prominent than JFK/LGA. There is no way JFK could take even a fraction of what Philadelphia handles. I think Philadelphia would not lose any services to JFK. I think PHL will continue to get international destinations that JFK doesn't have. EL AL is a Star Alliance member. Why fight for the Tel Aviv market, for example, with United who has the Massive Newark hub and El Al who has a hub in Tel Aviv and Delta flyng JFK-Tel Aviv (If I'm not mistaken, which I could be) when you have a massive O&D market all to yourself, a huge 400 flight hub, more pricing power with O&D traffic VS. a Focus City with a lot of competition...
I see Charlotte, Dallas, Miami, and Philadelphia being the crown jewels of the new American. I wonder what role Tempe has in mind for Chicago. I know they don't like competition.
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are you sure el al is part of star alliance i dont think they are in an alliance but i could be wrong.. as for your theory i like that it does make sense but only time will tell what will come about
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woops. It's Egypt air. Regardless, that just means even more competition. Assuming Delta, United, and El Al operate New York-Tel Aviv. I don't have time to keep up with aviation as much as I used to.
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el al has 2 to jfk and 1 to ewr and dl and ua both go to tlv from jfk and ewr respectively there
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Which tells me Tel Aviv would be much better serviced via Philadelphia. Especially if we are talking O&D (and connecting traffic, for that matteR), most likely... And I'm sure this applies to most other European/Asian flights as well.
I think, personally, Philadelphia is the biggest winner in this merger.
I'm saddened to see the US Airways brand go. I don't work in the airline industry. US Airways when merged with Piedmont brought my family from Houston to Charlotte. I have lots of memories growing up watching US Air planes take off in Charlotte with my mom singing Shania Twain songs we'd buy at the Casette tape store in CLT and go to the airport over look. I loved playing on the trail new near Old Dowd they tore up when they put in the new runway. So greatful US/Piedmont brought us to Charlotte. My father (who passed away early in the early 90's) would take me to work and I remember the employees coming in and out of the door on to the ramp. There was a shoe shining place or haircut place I'd sit in with the black guy who ran it. Oh well, This merger is needed. Business is business
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If there are any notes to compare I sure as hell hope they are positive, we are so in the dark about our futures...way to many questions need to be answered about how this affects current employees..
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