UA transfers its two DAL (Love Field) gates to Southwest; Is DL out?

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I wish I had 50 cents for every time you and others accused me of lying but can't even detail the supposed lie.

when you quit throwing out charges of lying and accept the fact that there are basic market facts which you might not like but which are absolutely true, then maybe we can all move on.

in the meantime, all of the predictions of DL's demise at DAL have yet to occur.

when DL is out of DAL and they accept it without a fight, you can get back to me.

 
Here's just a few examples from this year:
1.  The DL-VS JV has already generated more revenue than any other airline partnership over the same period of time.
2.  AA-JL ATI only applies to USA-Japan.
 
And these examples are just from the past week.
 
Do you want me to go on or have you had enough?
 
You are a liar and a fraud!
 
Oh, as as a bonus, just to make it relevant to this thread:  DL is a new entrant carrier.
 

 

[WorldTraveler]

you continue to grasp at straws trying to discredit real information which shows AA/US in the light in which it is in.

we get it.

AA said its LHR revenues are being negatively impacted by DL/VS while DL says it is growing.

AA's RASM growth is underperforming the industry even while it aggressively cuts capacity.

no, the only ones that are unhinged are those who can't accept that the AA/US merger is turning out exactly the way many of us said it would - an oversized airline built around low yield connecting traffic that US "stole" from other carriers and which AA cannot replace with its own flights because of low fare competition and AA's inability to grow its own network against LCCs or other legacies.

AA is profitable and Parker is taking home hefty pay raises but AA labor isn't able to influence those profits so they won't be getting any profit sharing... and AA labor won't stand up for its people to call Parker a fraud for saying that he should get more pay because of lower fuel prices but AA labor should not.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

you continue to grasp at straws trying to discredit real information which shows AA/US in the light in which it is in.

we get it.

AA said its LHR revenues are being negatively impacted by DL/VS while DL says it is growing.

AA's RASM growth is underperforming the industry even while it aggressively cuts capacity.

 

 
Quit trying to change the subject.
 
Why don't you post the data to back up this claim:
DL's strategy with VS has already generated far more revenue for DL than any other airline partnership has for any other airline in the same period of time.
 
Come on do it!
I triple dog dare you to.
 
AA's LHR revenue has nothing to do with the subject at hand or your fraudulent statements.
 
How about addressing the DL is a new entrant carrier claim or better yet AA's Pacific ATI?

 

[WorldTraveler]

I told you pages ago that I am not going to look thru dozens of pages of earnings transcripts to prove my point.

I really don't care if you believe the statement about DL/VS or not.

AA execs themselves said that DL/VS' growth of LHR is hurting AA.

don't wet your pants with glee trying to prove a point that I don't really care about.

I do care about the fact that AA is underperforming the industry.

you can't counter that.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

I told you pages ago that I am not going to look thru dozens of pages of earnings transcripts to prove my point.

I really don't care if you believe the statement about DL/VS or not.

AA execs themselves said that DL/VS' growth of LHR is hurting AA.

don't wet your pants with glee trying to prove a point that I don't really care about.

I do care about the fact that AA is underperforming the industry.

you can't counter that.

 
Translation:  There is no evidence anywhere that will show that what I have written is correct.  I fabricated a lie.  I am a fraud and a liar.  People are onto me.  I therefore need to change the subject to anything else so that attention is diverted and that my foolishness doesn't stand out like a sore thumb.  How can I try to disparage some carrier and at the same time try to pass off my DL is the best narrative.

 

[700UW]

 
Translation:  There is no evidence anywhere that will show that what I have written is correct.  I fabricated a lie.  I am a fraud and a liar.  People are onto me.  I therefore need to change the subject to anything else so that attention is diverted and that my foolishness doesn't stand out like a sore thumb.  How can I try to disparage some carrier and at the same time try to pass off my DL is the best narrative.

Great Post!

 

[WorldTraveler]

Translation:  There is no evidence anywhere that will show that what I have written is correct.  I fabricated a lie.  I am a fraud and a liar.  People are onto me.  I therefore need to change the subject to anything else so that attention is diverted and that my foolishness doesn't stand out like a sore thumb.  How can I try to disparage some carrier and at the same time try to pass off my DL is the best narrative.

you are as bad with languages as you are with numbers.

I said I don't care whether you believe DL's benefit from VS or not.

AA execs themselves said



Julie Yates (Analyst - Credit Suisse):

Okay, understood. And then on the transatlantic, you mentioned that this is going to be the only positive region in the first quarter on unit revenues. Is there a risk to this given some of the competitive capacity additions from Delta and Virgin Atlantic? I believe they are increasing capacity about 10% on some of their routes.

Doug Parker (Chairman, CEO):

Well, there's always a risk to it. We feel pretty good about that forecast. The UK remains relatively strong, which is where we have the bulk of our capacity. And we have cut capacity a lot. So while we said PRASM is going to be up, that is on the back of a 7%-8% -- I think you said 8% across the Atlantic production in capacity. So PRASM is going to be a based on that. So we feel -- we think that's what will happen, but obviously we can't know for sure until we get through the quarter.

Scott Kirby (President):
And on the revenue front I think the simple explanation is more competitive capacity in our markets. It is 50 markets, some of those are across the Atlantic. Dallas and Washington National are the two largest, those are well known. But there has also been pretty significant growth from Frontier in Philadelphia and to some degree Chicago. So, I think we just have more markets that are now -- have LCC pricing in them and that really ramped up in -- started in the fourth quarter and ramps up even more in the first quarter.

Glenn Engel (Analyst - Bank of America):

And the Atlantic?

Scott Kirby (President):

It is the same issue. There is -- you've got more capacity. Some of the new markets are out of the UK -- Virgin and Delta reorient and fly more out of Heathrow.


so Doug and Scott are just lying.... DL has really no effect on AA's performance at LHR?

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

you are as bad with languages as you are with numbers.

I said I don't care whether you believe DL's benefit from VS or not.
 

 
Quit trying to deflect / detract / spin / change the subject / look for a disclaimer.
 
You said this:
"DL's strategy with VS has already generated far more revenue for DL than any other airline partnership has for any other airline in the same period of time."
 
You still can't back-up your claim.
 
Lair and a fraudster is what you are.

 

[WorldTraveler]

the answer to the thread title is "NO" DL is not out of DAL.

I don't really care what you do with or believe about DL and VS.

AA is a shrinking airline. that is quite an accomplishment - but really what we expected given US' pricing policies.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

the answer to the thread title is "NO" DL is not out of DAL.

I don't really care what you do with or believe about DL and VS.

AA is a shrinking airline. that is quite an accomplishment - but really what we expected given US' pricing policies.

 
The answer is that you are a liar and a fraudster that contaminates every thread on every board.
 
You got caught in a huge big time lie regarding DL-VS.
 
You are factually incorrect on everything related to DAL and the Wright Amendment too.
 
Your credibility (if you had any) is shrinking faster than DL's presence in NRT.

 

[robbedagain]

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[WorldTraveler]

no, I speak the truth about what is going on in the industry.

while you are anally preoccupied by a claim I made, Wall Street is far more focused on what the airlines are actually reporting - which are trying desperately to ignore.

AA is a shrinking airline based on the report they released today. Further, their regional carriers are getting larger - to the tune of 8.6% in the month of January.

the only thing that is holding AA's finances together right now is cheap fuel but since crude is up but over a buck and a half today, all of the predictions of huge profits at AA could quickly evaporate if AA, unhedged, watches revenues decline while labor costs grow dramatically.

and once again, this thread could have been closed days ago when it became obvious based on DL's statement that they weren't impacted by UA's decision to lease their DAL gates to WN.

DL hasn't gone anywhere and despite numerous predictions by a host of people here, there is no evidence that DL is anywhere close to being out of DAL.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

no, I speak the truth about what is going on in the industry.

while you are anally preoccupied by a claim I made, Wall Street is far more focused on what the airlines are actually reporting - which are trying desperately to ignore.

AA is a shrinking airline based on the report they released today. Further, their regional carriers are getting larger - to the tune of 8.6% in the month of January.

the only thing that is holding AA's finances together right now is cheap fuel but since crude is up but over a buck and a half today, all of the predictions of huge profits at AA could quickly evaporate if AA, unhedged, watches revenues decline while labor costs grow dramatically.

and once again, this thread could have been closed days ago when it became obvious based on DL's statement that they weren't impacted by UA's decision to lease their DAL gates to WN.

DL hasn't gone anywhere and despite numerous predictions by a host of people here, there is no evidence that DL is anywhere close to being out of DAL.

 
You certainly do not speak any truth.  At least not on this board, and definitely not with respect to what is going on in the industry or any other topic you pretend to be an expert on.
 
You are anally preoccupied with the DL rules the world narrative.
 
Stop trying to spin and deflect.  Nobody is buying your BS.
 
PS.  how about the DL is finish JAL once and for all prediction?

 

[robbedagain]

itll be quite interesting to see what happens come July at DAL  whether or NOT DL remains at DAL

 

[LDVAviation]

 
Translation:  There is no evidence anywhere that will show that what I have written is correct.  I fabricated a lie.  I am a fraud and a liar.  People are onto me.  I therefore need to change the subject to anything else so that attention is diverted and that my foolishness doesn't stand out like a sore thumb.  How can I try to disparage some carrier and at the same time try to pass off my DL is the best narrative.

 
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