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TWU Local 514 - Ballots Are Being Counted

Since "outsiders" are not allowed into the Tulsa 514 "secret society" :ph34r: website, would one of the insiders :ph34r: care to please post the results of the local 514 "election"?
Presidents
Steven Luis = 840
Terry Lesperance = 594
Robert Bielawski = 517
Harry Ashbaugh = 431
Lester Howard = 297
Grizz Lee = 235
Michael Rial = 186
Scott Adsit = 156
Matt McDonald = 111
Joseph Davis = 24

Vice Presidents
Michael McDonald = 1237
Raymond Wilson = 1130
Kevin Creaser = 517
Lex Brooks = 417

Recording Secretary
Mary Gorremans = 1234
Jay Potter = 1127
April Dean = 507
Stephen Theophilidis = 446

Financial Secretary
Jenni Proctor = 1387
James Jones = 458
Mark Bruski = 453
John Gaines = 406
Matthew Nugent = 208
William Moore = 185
Corine Chillious = 162

Chairman of Maintenance
Patrick Kinnamon = 969
Kevin Hammack = 654
Terry Buck = 399
Daniel Craft = 277
Marvin Magnus = 274

Chairman of Fleet Service
Samuel Cirri = 61
Ronald Six = 38

Chairman of Stores
Dan Mitchell = 187
David Thompson = 78
Louis King = 42
Herschel Kirkley = 37

Chairman of Plant Maintenance
Dale Lantz = 200

Chairman of Tech Specialists
Howard McKinney = 32
Dennis Arden = 23

Eboard Top 8 are in
Jacqueline Johnson = 1113
Joel Sewell = 967
George Bunch = 923
Thomas Supernaw = 889
Lee Yaryan = 788
Dennis Hall = 783
Michael Messick = 779
Kevin Crosser = 762
Chris Gibson = 730
Scott Capener = 698
Robert Yount = 680
Gene Chapin = 622
R Fridley = 619
Gordon McGill = 615
Juan Riancho = 565
Miles Lacy = 536
Mary Hamm = 524
Steve Speers = 502
Matthew Grubb = 494
Gary Elias = 488
Steven Cochran = 488
Ronald Campbell = 463
Kennard Fuselier = 446
Ronnie Engles = 417
Donna Reed = 415

I did not put in convention delegates to save space if you want those results I will get them for you.
 
Presidents
Steven Luis = 840
Terry Lesperance = 594
Robert Bielawski = 517
Harry Ashbaugh = 431
Lester Howard = 297
Grizz Lee = 235
Michael Rial = 186
Scott Adsit = 156
Matt McDonald = 111
Joseph Davis = 24

Vice Presidents
Michael McDonald = 1237
Raymond Wilson = 1130
Kevin Creaser = 517
Lex Brooks = 417

Recording Secretary
Mary Gorremans = 1234
Jay Potter = 1127
April Dean = 507
Stephen Theophilidis = 446

Financial Secretary
Jenni Proctor = 1387
James Jones = 458
Mark Bruski = 453
John Gaines = 406
Matthew Nugent = 208
William Moore = 185
Corine Chillious = 162

Chairman of Maintenance
Patrick Kinnamon = 969
Kevin Hammack = 654
Terry Buck = 399
Daniel Craft = 277
Marvin Magnus = 274

Chairman of Fleet Service
Samuel Cirri = 61
Ronald Six = 38

Chairman of Stores
Dan Mitchell = 187
David Thompson = 78
Louis King = 42
Herschel Kirkley = 37

Chairman of Plant Maintenance
Dale Lantz = 200

Chairman of Tech Specialists
Howard McKinney = 32
Dennis Arden = 23

Eboard Top 8 are in
Jacqueline Johnson = 1113
Joel Sewell = 967
George Bunch = 923
Thomas Supernaw = 889
Lee Yaryan = 788
Dennis Hall = 783
Michael Messick = 779
Kevin Crosser = 762
Chris Gibson = 730
Scott Capener = 698
Robert Yount = 680
Gene Chapin = 622
R Fridley = 619
Gordon McGill = 615
Juan Riancho = 565
Miles Lacy = 536
Mary Hamm = 524
Steve Speers = 502
Matthew Grubb = 494
Gary Elias = 488
Steven Cochran = 488
Ronald Campbell = 463
Kennard Fuselier = 446
Ronnie Engles = 417
Donna Reed = 415

I did not put in convention delegates to save space if you want those results I will get them for you.

AAPITBULL, Thanks for the info. I see Pat Kinnamon :up: beat out "company man" Hammack :down: . At least one true unionist got voted in. The other names I'm not too familar with, except for TWU worshipper CIO's :down: wife Mary Gorremans. Oh well, you can't win them all.
 
The election does not pass the smell test. The ballots were picked up at the post office and then left overnight at the union hall for several nights. There were a lot of people coming and going after hours.

I believe it is more than a coincidence that the very same e-board members got reelected at a time when the membership was so thirsty for change.

We need a neutral third party counting ballots and counting them from the moment the're picked up at the p.o. until the results are known. That way observers can insure there is no hanky panky by being able to monitor the whole process from begining to end. None of the leaving ballots overnight at the hall b.s.

Another thing I'm not happy about is the fact that our new President was voted in with less than 1,000 votes when well over 3,000 people voted. There needs to be a run-off in order to insure the new President represents the majority of the voting workers.

I'm pretty disgusted right now and agency fee looks very attractive once again. Until I decide I believe I'll wear my AMFA shirt somemore just to piss off the incumbents.
 
If observers were not allowed at all stages of the process, from the post office to the final tally, the election is illegal. Check the constitution, by laws, and the Landrum Griffith Act.
 
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The election does not pass the smell test. The ballots were picked up at the post office and then left overnight at the union hall for several nights. There were a lot of people coming and going after hours.

I believe it is more than a coincidence that the very same e-board members got reelected at a time when the membership was so thirsty for change.

We need a neutral third party counting ballots and counting them from the moment the're picked up at the p.o. until the results are known. That way observers can insure there is no hanky panky by being able to monitor the whole process from begining to end. None of the leaving ballots overnight at the hall b.s.

Another thing I'm not happy about is the fact that our new President was voted in with less than 1,000 votes when well over 3,000 people voted. There needs to be a run-off in order to insure the new President represents the majority of the voting workers.

I'm pretty disgusted right now and agency fee looks very attractive once again. Until I decide I believe I'll wear my AMFA shirt somemore just to piss off the incumbents.

I think the neutral third party should handle the entire process, including mailing of the ballots and handling replacement and/or undelivered ballots.

After reading the AUD information on how to obtain fair elections, the counting process is not the only way to rig the election.
 
AAPITBULL, Thanks for the info. I see Pat Kinnamon :up: beat out "company man" Hammack :down: . At least one true unionist got voted in. The other names I'm not too familar with, except for TWU worshipper CIO's :down: wife Mary Gorremans. Oh well, you can't win them all.

You guys/gals are welcome the only real change in my mind is Pat we will see if he can keep up his fight with the company after the E- board cuts his legs out from under him a few times like they will do Good luck Pat!!!
 
I have decided to give Pat and Steve my full support until they prove unworthy of it. I believe both are sincere about attempting to improve the TWU 514.
 
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I have decided to give Pat and Steve my full support until they prove unworthy of it. I believe both are sincere about attempting to improve the TWU 514.


Yeah, like two good men are going change what thousands cannot.

I guess some things discussed and proven with TWU Documentation during the AMFA drive have been long forgotten.

I agree they may be sincere but the institution will never be changed by two. In fact the TWU will never be changed period!
 
Yeah, like two good men are going change what thousands cannot.

I guess some things discussed and proven with TWU Documentation during the AMFA drive have been long forgotten.

I agree they may be sincere but the institution will never be changed by two. In fact the TWU will never be changed period!

Never say never. The union is the members. Perhaps since they were elected the members will support them. Next time there will be more than two. Accountability is the key. Perhaps these two will keep the other elected people accountable.

One step would be to allow fellow AMTs to view the Local 514 web site. Local 564's site doesn't need a password why does the 514? Openness is the ally of accountability.

Good luck to those with sincerity who won.
 
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