TWU-IAM Finally Getting Ready for JCBA Negotiations

[ThirdSeatHero]

You win man. Just like AMFA did

 
When you back track like that I can't lose - you posted my quote after there genius.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Maybe  this is where I got it. Sorry didn't read that you switched your stance. My bad

 
Oh and perhaps you should brush up on your reading, as your comprehensions clearly lacking ....
 
My position hasn't changed - You'll notice I used the word "stated" as in a previous post, if you bothered to find and read that previous post you would've found this ....
 

 
I share the sentiment
 
I suspect that with everything that has already happened in the legal arena between AA Locals & ATD that someone if not many someones are already prepared to make a challenge should the NMB try to certify the Alliance without a vote. Add to the mix, you have a congress that would just love to stick it to a pair of unions, even more so armed with would what would be a clear deviation from the NMBs published rules concerning mergers. 
 
We'll have to wait and see

 
Nice try

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

 
Oh and perhaps you should brush up on your reading, as your comprehensions clearly lacking ....
 
My position hasn't changed - You'll notice I used the word "stated" as in a previous post, if you bothered to find and read that previous post you would've found this ....
 
 
Nice try

It is all semantics. Spin as you will we know how you stand and you are dead wrong.
 
And I was wrong it was VortBoy playing the keyboard commando thing to me

 

[usairways_vote_NO]

 
When you back track like that I can't lose - you posted my quote after there genius.

Guess you didn't catch the AMFA thing there. Talk about reading comprehension problems LOL
 
Hint I was being sarcastic you did lose.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

BTW - since some are to lazy to look it up here are two quick links to the NMB using Single Carrier and Single Transportation interchangeably.
 
https://storage.googleapis.com/dakota-dev-content/41-NMB-No.-23-Findings-Upon-Investigation-AA-US-Airways-CWA-IBT-Association-ACSEA-IBT-CWA.pdf
 
https://storage.googleapis.com/dakota-dev-content/CORRECTED-VERSION-41-NMB-No.-38-NMB-Case-No.-R-7401-CR-7126-Findings-Upon-Investigation-AA-US-Airways-APFA-AFA-CWA.pdf

 
BTW since someone is too lazy to read their own posted links or comprehend them for that matter, allow me to point out that the NMB does NOT use Single Carrier and Single Transportation interchangeably.
 
The NMB is simply reporting the statements as made by the filing parties -
 

 
...Jones states that the two airlines had also negotiated a process for Flight Attendants and several groups
41 NMB No. 23
- 98 -
of ground employees to arrive at common terms and conditions of employment on a relatively expedited basis following a single-carrier determination and certification of a representative by the NMB....
 

 

 
...According to Paul Jones, on or about December 19, 2013, APFA and the Association of Flight Attendants (AFA), the representative of US Airways’ flight attendants, reached an agreement for bargaining and representation that would require both unions to jointly file a single-carrier petition within six months of...

 
Again, Nice try

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

It is all semantics. Spin as you will we know how you stand and you are dead wrong.
 
And I was wrong it was VortBoy playing the keyboard commando thing to me

 
Dude everyone is entitled to their own OPINION .... yes, even you.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Guess you didn't catch the AMFA thing there. Talk about reading comprehension problems LOL
 
Hint I was being sarcastic you did lose.

 
No need to catch it, you like so many of the other IAM/TWU apologists, always make sad deflection attempts when your story is slipping - par for the course
 
But hey, if you thinking I didn't recognize your meager attempts at sarcasm makes you feel better - knock yourself out

 

[NYer]

Talking to 542 leaders, they would have run a card drive, if that's aloowed, to get the show of interest above 50 percent. International did nothing.

 
Didn't they eventually create the National Association of Airline Professionals (NAAP)?

 

[AANYER]

Thnx Gary and all of Local 591 guys who represent the Line Mechanics, You are doing a great job.
 
 

FAA letter says American Airlines ‘may’ have violated federal regulations

Terry Maxon 


Follow @tmaxonEmail [email protected]Transport Workers Local 591, which represents American Airlines mechanics in Dallas/Fort Worth, Chicago and some other places, has posted three letters to members that involve its dispute with management over maintenance practices:



– A Jan. 29 letter from the manager of the FAA’s certificate maintenance office in which the manager says American may have violated federal aviation regulations
– A letter from TWU Local 591 president Gary Peterson summing up the situation.
– A letter from Peterson to AA chairman and CEO Doug Parker chiding American for not responding to the local’s complaints and urging Parker to sit down with Peterson.
First, the Jan. 29 letter from C.J. DiCesare, manager of the FAA certificate maintenance office over American.
“As a result of our investigation, we have determined that a violation of the Code of Federal Regulations may have occurred,” DiCesare wrote. “This office will continue to investigate this possible violation and will take the necessary corrective action.”
DiCesare’s letter indicated the potential violations involved revisions to American’s general procedures manual over maintenance inspections, particularly taking “Quality Control” out of responsibility for B checks and taking inspectors off B checks.
Second, Peterson told members in a Thursday letter that American had reversed itself on inspections caused lightning strikes after the union sued the company.
He cited the FAA letter, the reversal of limits on lightning inspections and another FAA “letter of inquiry” over a maintenance issue involving an airplane’s defective steering.
“All three of these items corroborate the allegations of your fellow AMTs at ORD and DFW that they have been subject to efforts by AA management to subordinate safety to delay avoidance, including the use of threats and intimidation to induce AMT’s into improperly signing off aircraft maintenance items,” Peterson wrote.
In the Parker letter, Peterson said the union regretted having to file a federal lawsuit to challenge AA maintenance practices that the union believes compromised safety.
“On the date of the lawsuit’s filing, Company spokesmen represented that they had received no communication from the FAA regarding aviation maintenance issues of concern. While it is hard to believe those statements were truthful at the time, if that same statement were to be reiterated today, it would be a flat lie,” Peterson wrote Parker.
“The number of FAA investigators assigned to the ORD and DFW AIR 21 complaints has now increased to six. As additional LOIs are received from the FAA – and we suspect there will be if the agency is doing its job – we ask you to instruct your subordinates to disclose the nature of the safety violations and work with the President and Vice President of Local 591 to remediate the situation,” Peterson wrote.
We await response from American. An FAA spokesman declined to comment on an ongoing investigation.
 

 

[Bogey]

Didn't they eventually create the National Association of Airline Professionals (NAAP)?

No, NAAP was created and a card drive started when the TWU cancelled negotiations with the company. That was in early May. It was a couple months later that the TWU suspended the board, it was then that they resigned and got behind NAAP. The former board didn't create it, the TWU was the catalyst for it when they broke the camels back and the members had enough.

 

[Hackman]

Glad to see you are name calling.
 
I am not getting paid by the IAM, is that too hard for you to understand?
 
My post was 100% the truth.
 
Think what you want, says it all about you, attack the posted when you cant refute the facts.

IAm tool boy, why don't you stop with the accusations and sniveling to others about name calling and telling lies. You name call as much as anyone on this board and your IAm lies are as prevalent as your Delta buddy and Josh you love to hate.  Your so fanatically petty, and a real blow hard in posts of nonsensical fecal matter, in an industrial union flavor of course.
 
I am still in stitches at the threats of you coming after me for perceived character assassinations on a bulletin board. It's no wonder the IAm is at about the lower rung in union ranking with this type of stupidity. Did they not teach you about false charges of fact at Flacid Harbor?

Nobody at AA cares about what you did in the non-glory days with the IAm at your FORMER employer US Air.
US Air is gone, or is soon to be. Fact.

Your not employed at AA, your IAm tool boy and former stock clerk blather is not wanted by AMTs who are fighting a increasingly hostile airline.

Take your base IAm self over to Delta where the F/A's might want to hear from you in your former glory days and where the IAm might have a snowballs chance.

Spare the "Don't let the facts get in the way" bawling.

 

[700UW]

I was answering a poster, if you dont like, dont read it.
 
And use the ignore feature.

 

[Vortilon]

It is all semantics. Spin as you will we know how you stand and you are dead wrong.
 
And I was wrong it was VortBoy playing the keyboard commando thing to me

 
 
Keyboard commando?  Are you gonna play the victim card?  Look, if you don't like it, stop lying. 

 

[NYer]

What was the outcome of those negotiations surveys sent out by some of the TWU Locals?
 
...when are the joint TWU/IAM negotiations prep going to take place?
 
...when are are going to find out who will be on the TWU Negotiation Committee? Has that been decided?
 
Is there anything going on?

 

[dfw gen]

What was the outcome of those negotiations surveys sent out by some of the TWU Locals?
 
...when are the joint TWU/IAM negotiations prep going to take place?
 
...when are are going to find out who will be on the TWU Negotiation Committee? Has that been decided?
 
Is there anything going on?

your the twu cheerleader,answer the questions!