TWU and the Company reached a Tentative Agreement

[TWU informer]

Is the real last best offer?
Or the next best last offer?

Which last best offer is this?

 

[TWU informer]

today's "Daily Dispatch Company News"

AA SYSTEM NEWS___________________
American Airlines, mechanics forge tentative contract – Negotiators for bankrupt American Airlines and its mechan-ics and stock clerks reached a tentative six-year contract agreement late Tuesday that provides 15 percent wage in-creases over six years, improved health insurance and other benefits. The tentative agreement, which must be ratified in a vote by 11,000 mechanics and stock clerks during the next month, also includes a 3 percent day-of-signing bonus for the mechanics and a 3.5 percent day-of-signing bonus for the stock clerks. "There were enough improvements that we thought it was necessary to bring it back to the membership for a vote," said John Hewitt, chairman of maintenance at Transport Workers Union Local 514 in Tulsa. Neither the company nor the TWU could provide further details on the tentative agreement …

Is this a 3% signing BONUS or a 3% Raise?
Company News says Bonus
TWU News says Raise

Hmmmm, confusion again?

 

[BigMac]

Is the real last best offer?
Or the next best last offer?

Which last best offer is this?

LBO Part Deux.

 

[Overspeed]

Line Station Presidents with integrity and a spine
voted No to bring this back. Those who voted yes
wish to grovel on their knees and attempt to further
ruin our craft.

This t/a will fail just like the last one failed.

Vote No!
Vote AMFA!

Ken, how are you getting along with the ARSA and Sarah MacLeod? You talk about integrity and spine but why are you in bed with an organization who wants all maintenance work outsourced? I know the Wall of Honor is a good thing but really, taking money and an endorsement from a group that is against drug testing and security background checks for foreign MROs and wants the ban on 145 certificates lifted so more low wage foreign MROs can take our work? Where is your integrity? Give the money back and tell the ARSA to shove it.

Do some fact checking before popping off Mighty Mouse.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

If you have not signed an AMFA card and you are angry about this sellout by your union, then you have nobody to blame but yourself. TWU has sold the AMTs out time and time again. Did you know that the other groups still got their longevity pay while we lost ours in 2003? Did you realize that the other groups got paid 100% sick pay while we got 50%? The people that brought this on are also telling you there is "Me Too" language in the contract that is worthless! I am not trying to belittle the other groups, but I think that if a guy that throws a bag and a guy that drives a forklift get longevity and 100% sick time, then that should be a gimme for the AMTs. If your union can't or won't get that for you then it is time for them to go. Think!!!! Could you be any worse off with AMFA? I think not.

 

[Vortilon]

[background=rgb(252, 252, 252)]Motion: "A recommendation to take the company's Last Best Offer and put it out for a vote." Also, with a roll-call vote

Motion made by Charlie Meyer (STL Local 529). Seconded by Robert Todd (SFO Local 505).

Local 501 JFK Vinnie Argentina FOR
Local 505 SFO Robert Todd FOR
Local 512 ORD Paul Hildmann FOR
Local 513 DFW Don Dougherty FOR
Local 514 TUL John Hewitt FOR
Local 514 TUL John Carlisle FOR
Local 521 DTW John Mizwa FOR
Local 529 STL Charlie Meyer FOR
Local 561 MIA Jorge Rojas AGAINST
Local 561 MIA Eddie Suarez AGAINST
Local 562 JFK Bob Owens AGAINST
Local 563 ORD Paul McCormick AGAINST
Local 564 LAX John Ruiz AGAINST
Local 565 DFW Gary Peterson AGAINST
Local 567 AFW Larry Pike AGAINST
Local 590 BNA Howard Blaydes FOR[/background]


Whoa !! Line station president's called for the roll call vote. Apparently all the line stations aren't on board with a NO vote. !!


Count the numbers. Whether it was a roll call vote or a simple majority vote (9 Yes - 7 No) it passed. The NO's lost, what don't you understand about that? Quit whining, you're starting to sound like a bunch of teenagers.

If the dozen or two AMFA guys, or the AMP & Vote NO Crowd (AMFA in drag) stopped posting on this site, what would we have to talk about, not much, although it is entertaining.

Reality chump don't be so predictable. How is this vote representative of the A&P mechanics at AA. Local 514 has a baggage handler and an OSM representing all of Tulsa - yeah they had all of our best interests in mind.

 

[OldGuy@AA]

July 10, 2012 Tentative Agreements Brief Summary – Stores & Mechanic and Related
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July 11, 2012[/background]
Mechanic and Related STORES Effective DOS 3% Effective DOS 3.5% Effective DOS +12 mos, 3% Effective DOS +12 mos, 2% Effective DOS +24 mos, 3% Effective DOS +24 mos, 2%
Effective DOS + 36 mos, 3% (1 Wage Adjustment)
Effective DOS + 36 mos, 1.5% (1 Wage Adjustment) Effective DOS + 48 mos, 1.5% (Early Opener) Effective DOS + 48 mos, 1.5% (Early Opener) Effective DOS + 60 mos, 1.5% Effective DOS + 60 mos, 0%

Note: 1 Wage Adjustment will be an average of the top wage between Delta, United and US Air. (No cap) We will have our wages adjusted to that average.

Early Opener (M&R and Stores)

• 
  Early Opener any time after 48 months from date of signing with 60 day notice from either party.

AMT/O

• 
  AMT who chooses to RIF to an OSM position will keep their AMT base pay rate less license/skill premium. (Current language)

Tulsa Headcount

• 
  Same as “Last Best Offer”..

Sick Time

• 
  M&R – First day of each occurrence will be at half pay, full pay thereafter.

Vacation

• 
  M&R – 5 weeks max
• 
  Stores – 6 weeks max

Holidays

• 
  No change

Early out package (M&R and Stores)

• Same as “Last Best Offer”.

Shift Rotations (M&R)

• 12 week duration for Base

Overtime (M&R)

• Anything over 8 hours in a day is overtime
• All overtime is 1.5 x rate.
• Stores no longer has 40 hour requirement for overtime

Title II

• Mechanic who chooses to RIF to MSP (Maintenance Support Person) becomes a PMSP and is subject to MSP pay scale + $2.75 + applicable licence/skill premium (up to $2.50).

 

[OldGuy@AA]

Stores keeps vacation and 100% sick pay while we settle for one week less vacation and 50% sick! John Hewitt, you are a complete idiot!!!

 

[TWU informer]

WOW What an "improvement" = VOTE NO!

 

[Raptorman49]

Line Station Presidents with integrity and a spine
voted No to bring this back. Those who voted yes
wish to grovel on their knees and attempt to further
ruin our craft.

This t/a will fail just like the last one failed.

Vote No!
Vote AMFA!

Several of those Presidents are from Line stations the only base stations are Tulsa, AFW & DFW everything else is technically a line station regardless of what title the President of the Local is from. B)
This can't be blamed just on Tulsa is what I mean, STL & SFO are line stations & they called for the roll call vote.

Now that Tulsa has seen the full changes many are wavering so if you want it to fail ALL the Line stations will have to Overwhelmingly vote NO with a high turn out.

 

[Realityck]

Horton Hears a Who (TWU Informer) - Commies Aren't Cool
Ken MacTiernan - odie1 - olderguyAMT - Chuck Schalk - Buck

Are you AMFA, or the usual AMP & Vote NO Crowd (AMFA in drag)?

 

[Raptorman49]

Reality chump don't be so predictable. How is this vote representative of the A&P mechanics at AA. Local 514 has a baggage handler and an OSM representing all of Tulsa - yeah they had all of our best interests in mind.

I know who the baggage handler is but Who is the OSM representing Tulsa ??

 

[Raptorman49]

WOW What an "improvement" = VOTE NO!

Might want to check your math i'm getting 13.5% & 15%

 

[Buck]

Horton Hears a Who (TWU Informer) - Commies Aren't Cool
Ken MacTiernan - odie1 - olderguyAMT - Chuck Schalk - Buck

Are you AMFA, or the usual AMP & Vote NO Crowd (AMFA in drag)?

Is this really all you have?

I am AMFA and I am voting no.

 

[Overspeed]

WOW What an "improvement" = VOTE NO!

2.6%? Where did you find that? The FBO was 1.5% per year. Did you fail math?

The new TA has 3.0% per year and the wage adjustment.