Tulsa's AMT's can make things better

[swamt]

Swamt.. be careful what you say. So if AMFA fails does that mean AMFA is a failure and you will be looking for another union?

NOPE!!!

 

[swamt]

Realityck, Trust me I do know the numbers. You are wrong about the part that the 4th line is not going apart of our heavy maint in Dallas. Elsovador was started to remove an FBO from our maint list in USA. No extra maint was added, just a different FBO. They transfered maint from US to Elsolvador. Which BTW: the company has to ask us for our permission to continue such maint in Elsolvador. This is one of the prime reasons SWA wants to offer us an extension so they can continue the Elsolvador operations.

 

[1AA]

Did the Tulsa yes voters know this was coming??

I do not think they knew anything was coming except FEAR and the March 22nd term sheet.

 

[Lloyd Grey]

You just don't get that AMFA will never get enough cards, their is to much diversity at AA and AMFA doesn't have the resources to motivate all the different factions to sign a card or to reach the soon to be laid off employee's, Teamsters are the only organization that have a chance so better get more Teamster cards signed before the Layoff & forget about AMFA.
Also Teamsters say they can & will reopen the contract once they get in read up on it. ;-)

You both fail to understand the numbers in Tulsa will dwindle to zero once the MD80, 767 and 757 fleets are replaced. DWH will have all the capacity AA needs with new planes coming in on power-by-hour agreements AA negotiated in Paris last year (while they were supposed to be negotiating in good faith with TWU). Don't be fooled. Tulsa will be an AE city at best within 6 - 10 years.

 

[Anomaly]

Realityck, Trust me I do know the numbers. You are wrong about the part that the 4th line is not going apart of our heavy maint in Dallas. Elsovador was started to remove an FBO from our maint list in USA. No extra maint was added, just a different FBO. They transfered maint from US to Elsolvador. Which BTW: the company has to ask us for our permission to continue such maint in Elsolvador. This is one of the prime reasons SWA wants to offer us an extension so they can continue the Elsolvador operations.

ARE YOU EFFIN KIDDING ME????

You guys are cool with stealing jobs to El Salvador? How pathetic is that. BTW, these last Olympic games, who were you rooting for??

 

[TWU informer]

ARE YOU EFFIN KIDDING ME????

You guys are cool with stealing jobs to El Salvador? How pathetic is that. BTW, these last Olympic games, who were you rooting for??

You guys are professionals at political bashing but what about majority rule?

Isn't the Teamsters a Majority rule organization?

 

[AA89]

Anomoly.I guess you prefer China? Especially when your base isn't affected...or so you thought....

 

[DonnaU]

Just read this article, thanks to Sam and John we get to bump up to T town...Now that's really looking out for your local. Good job 514, your yes vote recomondation saved some of our AFW mechanics from the unemployment line!

Due to the Transport Workers Union's "bump-and-roll" provision, some Texas mechanics could take jobs in Tulsa

MATT BARNARD / Tulsa World file By JOHN STANCAVAGE World Business Editor

Published: 8/12/2012 2:34 AM

Last Modified: 8/12/2012 3:17 AM





On the surface, the Transport Workers Union's approval of a new contract with American Airlines last week would appear to have saved about 1,400 Tulsa jobs.



But for existing local workers, it's more complicated than that.



American Airlines, which is trying to cut $1.06 billion in labor costs to help it emerge from bankruptcy, originally planned to eliminate 2,100 mechanics at its Tulsa maintenance base. The deal approved by the TWU on Aug. 8 - the second offered by American while it has been under Chapter 11 protection - reduced that amount to 770.



A second TWU group, stock clerks, also approved a pact that lowered cuts in Tulsa from a planned 160 to 90.



Still, there's another event that's quietly looming - the planned closure of American's repair base at Alliance Airport in Fort Worth. Because of union "bump-and-roll" provisions, some of the more than 1,500 TWU mechanics there will have the option to move to Tulsa.



The bump rules are complicated, but seniority is a big factor. So, younger members in Tulsa that voted yes undoubtedly will be displaced by some Fort Worth workers.



"There's no way to tell at this point how many that would be," said John Hewitt, chairman of maintenance at TWU Local 514, in a telephone interview. "There's a lot of moving parts."



So, the bottom line is that it's possible more than 770 of Tulsa's existing mechanics may lose their jobs.



In purely economic terms, the impact on the city will be lessened slightly by Texans moving here and buying homes, but the situation also means some longtime Tulsans will be put out of work and may lose their houses if they can't find other positions.



American has told the union it wants to close Alliance and redistribute employees and work in the next six to nine months, Hewitt said.



Sam Cirri, president of TWU Local 514, alluded to the situation last Thursday in a letter to members.



"Dealing with this bankruptcy process has put a lot of stress on all of us and our families and, yet, we still have a lot of work and sacrifice ahead of us with layoffs and the movement of people and work," he said.



Cirri said the Local 514 will be notifying Tulsa Area United Way agencies, the state unemployment office, resume firms and other service providers to help members who are laid off.



"We are also in the process of making more medical insurance options available, whether (members) stay with the company or not," the president said.



Mike Neal, president and CEO of the Tulsa Metro Chamber, also said his group is ready to help.



"While aviation and aerospace remain key industry sectors in the region's economic development success," he said, "it is the human capital - our highly skilled work force - which allows these industries to thrive.



"We will intensely focus our resources toward the present and future economic and human well-being of displaced workers and their families."



Another "moving part" in the layoff scenario is that the TWU's latest contract includes an early-out provision.



"It's not early retirement, although that's what some people are calling it," Hewitt said. "It's a deal for someone to leave the company early."



Under the program, a mechanic who is 45 years old with 15 years with the company could be eligible for a $12,500 cash payout, plus $10,000 and 13 weeks' severance pay.



AMR will announce a time period when TWU members can elect to leave, he said.



As a result, it's possible some Texas workers could move to Tulsa to take jobs left open by those taking advantage of the exit program.



Along with the closing of Alliance, there's another action that will hit Tulsa before American emerges from bankruptcy. The carrier has said there will be layoffs outside of what's been announced for its unions.



In Tulsa, where there are 7,000 total employees, there could be several hundred more jobs cut beyond the mechanics and clerks. Officials have declined so far to be more specific.



Overall, it means there could be close to 1,000 people locally looking for aerospace-related work next year.



Tulsa recently has enjoyed a boom in the industry, with firms such as Lufthansa Technik adding significant jobs.



The TWU's Hewitt said he has heard about interest in American employees.



"I think the other companies out there in Tulsa realize the experience our workers have," he said.



TWU workers who survive the cuts will be working under a new contract that includes 15 percent wage increases over six years, improved health-care coverage compared with previous offers, market wage readjustment - based on industry compensation - after 36 months and the ability to reopen full contract negotiations after four years.



The contract, however, also permits the company to outsource up to 35 percent of aircraft maintenance now performed in-house. That worries union officials, who are trying to persuade American to take on more maintenance for other carriers.



"Third-party work, however, isn't currently part of American's plan to exit bankruptcy," Hewitt said. "That's a major concern to us because the company also is going to be buying new planes that don't need as much maintenance.



"We've done some contract work in the past and we're doing a little bit now. Everybody we do work for seems real happy with it."



Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworl...E1_CUTLIN161530

Most AFW AMTs are going to DFW and DWH.

 

[iluvaa]

How many times I'd that long ass article going to be posted here jeez

 

[Deleted member 14439]

Most AFW AMTs are going to DFW and DWH.

Really? 1179 AMT from AFW to be shown the door. There are only so many slots at DFW/DWH. Tulsa will not get thru this unscathed.

 

[DonnaU]

Really? 1179 AMT from AFW to be shown the door. There are only so many slots at DFW/DWH. Tulsa will not get thru this unscathed.

U need to not read into my posts. We all know TULE will lose some, but most will go to DFW / DWH. The sky is not falling in Tulsa !

 

[odie01]

U need to not read into my posts. We all know TULE will lose some, but most will go to DFW / DWH. The sky is not falling in Tulsa !

Donna,
Can you recommend a decent Italian resturant in the Tulsa propper, Cirri will not return my emails.

 

[DonnaU]

Donna,
Can you recommend a decent Italian resturant in the Tulsa propper, Cirri will not return my emails.

Odie, resturant = restaurant, propper = proper

 

[odie01]

Odie, resturant = restaurant, propper = proper

Sorry man, I had my bubba teeth in, gettin ready for the big move!

 

[DonnaU]

Sorry man, I had my bubba teeth in, gettin ready for the big move!

bubba, spellcheck is only one button